I guess I have to raise both hands. I live near relatively placid Lake Michigan, although I would have never used that term before reading theses posts. Lake Michigan is an inland sea, it does have it's rip tide areas (usually posted) but... After Mardott and Jonquil's posts... Don't turn your back on the ocean? People have died wading? Holy crap! I promise to take all of the postings much, much more seriously during my lake side vacation this week. (Looking sideways at Lake wondering if it's planning something...)