rolanni: (Pissed isn't she?)
rolanni ([personal profile] rolanni) wrote2013-12-19 06:02 pm

Regarding the myth that readers determine what gets published

OK, so I just read this article in PW about new trends in YA, or What's Hot and What's Not.

And the Nice Agent People are all allowing as how they participated in the flooding of the market with Urban Fantasy and Dystopian novels, until nobody wants UF or Dystopian novels any more, and now they're looking for the Coming Thing, which they believe will be "Contemporary Fiction." Which they will proceed to flood the market with until nobody wants it anymore, and then they'll be looking for the Coming Thing.

And my question is...why the hell can't we learn that flooding the market with anything serves no one? That a balanced approach means that every reader can find something that they like to read, all the time? I've stopped reading Science Fiction a couple of times in my life because I happened to hate the Hot Thing, and there! was! nothing else! but! the Hot Thing on offer. The years when all the SF had to be Hard, and Space Opera was dead, were especially trying.

Also, I'm kind of tired of proclamations like, "Second World Fantasy is dead." Because? Those sorts of proclamations, made by people who, actually don't know if Second World Fantasy is really dead, or just taking a breather -- mean that no one is going to be able to sell a Second World Fantasy to any of the established houses, the editors of which know that SWF is dead. . .which is why writers (1) Drink and (2) Self Publish.

And the trilogy thing? For years authors who had written a good, tight standalone novel were told that they "had" to write a trilogy. Which meant that the author sometimes "stretched" the ideas that had made a enthralling standalone until they broke, the trilogy tanked and readers got mad -- at them, not at the folks who "knew" that standalones were dead.

*deep breath*

So, it's a good thing that we're sitting over here in our corner, writing Space Opera set in a universe of our own devising, which we've been doing for a while now, and not starting-out writers starving for publication, and studying the Hot Trends in the hope that their book will be bought during the flood's high water mark.

*looks at button*

*pushes it off*

[identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
when book pickings get slim, and the current fad is sludging up whats new, I still have my TBR stacks to browse through to find something readable... since the input of NEW!SHINY!BOOKS! will slow down considerably.

[identity profile] mbarker.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Over in the stock market world, there seem to be various folks who make a living by going against the trend. If everyone else is saying, "Buy electronics, that's hot," these people are busily saying, "Sell electronics. Go with pharmaceuticals!" Or whatever.

I'm not sure why people believe the book industry is so narrow. Especially now, with self-pub and independent publishers busily growing the range of offerings.

Balance. What a radical concept! Makes sense, too.

Incidentally, given the time to write, peddle, and eventually publish something, does it make sense to try to hit today's hot stuff, or even next year's hot stuff? More like several years out, isn't it?


[identity profile] charlie russel (from livejournal.com) 2013-12-20 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
This desire for THE HOT THING is nearly killing Fantasy right now, since it seems like werewolves, zombies, and other such things are currently IT. Which means that those of us who enjoy a good fantasy, but without zombies, thank you very much, are pretty much stuck unless one of our favourite authors happens to buck the trend and write a new fantasy. Because no NEW author is going to be able to convince someone to buy their Maine Carousel fantasy. And even established authors will sometimes have trouble convincing a publisher to let them write what their existing readers actually want to read. And that the author actually wants to write.

Fortunately, as I get older, I appreciate re-reading old friends more and more. It gets me through the droughts. And when one of my favourite authors produces a new book with a familiar universe/setting/character, it's a lovely excuse to take a trip with the earlier ones in that "series".

[identity profile] attilathepbnun.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yah, true ... Same thing happens in adult fiction, to a certain extent. The number of 'Fifty Shades ..' imitators .... Bad + Bad *does NOT* equal good, people!*rolls eyes*
It's enough to make one enter a nunnery. A *cloistered* nunnery ....

[identity profile] mizkit.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
In about two more chapters I'm going to send this Pride-and-Prejudice-with-magic thing to my agent and see if he thinks anybody will buy it. With the bizarre flailing of the publishing industry, I really have no idea, but with the bizarre flailing of the publishing industry, at least I can legitimately do it on my own now if the publishing houses don't want it.

[identity profile] birdhousefrog.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hear, hear!

Oz

Just ignore that.

[identity profile] vsh-ny.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I just had an accident -- read one of the "hot", top-rated, YA books -- and rather not spell out my impressions.

Please keep writing your own stuff.
By the way, is there any chance you eventually write a sequel for "The Tomorrow Log"? I know that this project was declared abandoned, but one can still hope.

[identity profile] stitchwhich.livejournal.com 2013-12-20 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I wondered why it was that as the years rolled by, I'd find myself re-reading a lot of books and sadly walking away from shelves in the library and bookstores (while cruising used bookstores more and more). Now I know. It wasn't that there weren't writers producing what interested me, it was that - much like the salad dressing industry - printing companies were deciding what was "in" without paying any attention to what their customers would want.

Even more of a disappointment is getting a glut of well-written books in a particular sub-genre only to find that new titles are no longer being offered. Much like searching the grocery shelves for "Ceasar Parmasan" salad dressing. Oh yea, good marketing... get the consumer to develop a taste for something and then take it away. (I actually miss hard Science Fiction.)

[identity profile] zola.livejournal.com 2013-12-21 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so very sick of zombies, soft-porn supernatural creature novels, and poorly conceived dystopias that I have been reading old books rather than getting new ones.