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[personal profile] rolanni
It occurred to me this morning, at Con-minus-ten, that I am going to be traveling to yet another part of the world where it will be Hot, and that all of my summer clothes are either: (1) ratty t-shirts and jeans, (2) not-so-ratty t-shirts and khakis, (3) long-sleeved -- and that maybe I ought to Do Something About That.

I do possess one man's short-sleeved blue cotton camp shirt with block-printed leaves on it that I successfully finessed into a "jacket" for the purposes of Steve's parents' 50th Anniversary Party, pairing it with a black tank top, sorta-green khakis, and sandals. I was planning on reprising the look for Denvention, but that leaves several hot days on the calendar and me with a closet full of long-sleeved t-shirts.

Along about this time the caffeine hit and I realized that I could -- indeed, should! -- betake myself to JCPenney, where there was undoubtedly a Sale in progress, and provide myself with another couple camp, or, failing that, Hawaiian-print shirts. Directly after breakfast, I took off for the great city of Waterville and found that, indeed, Penney's was having a Sale.

Alas, it was a back-to-school sale; I had missed Hawaiian shirt season. Disconsolate but determined, I wandered the aisles, locating a very nice cream-and-brown embroidered bracelet-sleeved tunic at half-price, which will lend a much-needed note of elegance to my wardrobe, and a man's short-sleeved silk Hawaiian shirt, likewise at half-price, though unfortunately in blue (mind you, I like blue, which is immediately apparent to anyone who does look into my closet), woven with a pattern of white palm trees.

These additions should enable me to maintain an unprecedented level of Professional Decorum for those days when I am actually scheduled to perform, so I am, if not a happy woman, at least a less-panicked one.

I should mention that there were a lot of women's clothes on sale at Penney's, most of them entirely unsuitable for a six-foot woman in her mid-fifties who is carrying twenty extra pounds. I don't want baby-doll puff sleeves or figure (hah!) hugging shirts made out of tissue-cotton. I want casual tailored -- which is why I mostly shop in the men's section.

I keep thinking that there must, somewhere, be a store or a designer who has realized that the aging population of clothes buyer is becoming at least as important an income-stream as the Young and Beautiful population. Is this just a pipe-dream? Does such a store or designer exist? Where do you buy clothes?

Date: 2008-07-27 05:12 pm (UTC)
lagilman: coffee or die (s.u.r.i.)
From: [personal profile] lagilman
Where do you buy clothes?

1. The thrift stores on the Upper East Side, where anything 20-minutes-past-cutting-edge is available for less than half the original cost (and can be worn without shame in fashionable company for 3-5 years). Going downtown nets me the funkier stuff. All in fabulous condition, which makes me hate the Rich Folk just a little bit less.

2. Eddie Bauer. If it has to be comfortable and durable and have pockets, it's from EB. Finding the right size from them is always tricky, tho.

3. Any random outlet store that happens to have something that catches my magpie eye. Although less of that since I stopped having to wear Office Garb, and The Gap decided they were only designing for hipped, yet thighless 12 year old boys.

4. And you two were the evil beings who introduced me to The Territory Ahead, weren't you? Remind me to get revenge for that at some point...

Date: 2008-07-27 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manywaters.livejournal.com
Eddie Bauer. Amen. Their online outlet keeps me very happy.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah. Eddie is usually my go-to guy -- that's were the not-so-ratty khakis, and the really nice (winter-weight) cords, and the long-sleeved t-shirts came from. I don't like their women's shirts, though, again, the men's department does me fine.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manywaters.livejournal.com
It occurs to me that Talbots may be a good place to look - you have to poke about a bit, but their outlet site is good, as is the return policy, and they do lovely things with linen.

Last year the linen button downs from Eddie Bauer kept me quite happy. This summer I'm living in my EB tanktops and REI shorts and skirts.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
4. And you two were the evil beings who introduced me to The Territory Ahead, weren't you? Remind me to get revenge for that at some point...

Uh, yeah...that was us.

*looks around for something to hide under*

Date: 2008-07-27 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jelazakazone.livejournal.com
I used to buy stuff at Eddie Bauer too, but I have drifted away from them. I tend to buy most of my clothes from Land's End now. The ability to shop online and return to a store is irresistible (and I can often get free shipping from Land's End).

I recently discovered a store called Coldwater Creek. Their prices are crazy, but they have good sales and they sell pants that actually come up to my waist!

You are so clever to shop in the men's section. Alas, that doesn't work for me as I'm too small:(

Date: 2008-07-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
lagilman: coffee or die (Default)
From: [personal profile] lagilman
I used to buy a lot of Office Garb at Coldwater Creek, but I haven't been so thrilled with their offerings, lately. Although it's easier to return stuff now that they have a store in my area....

Date: 2008-07-27 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jelazakazone.livejournal.com
Well, I have to admit that I only recently found them (like a year or so ago) and when I went back this spring, I was disappointed in what they had. There were no shorts in the store! I am too short to wear capris:(

Date: 2008-07-27 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimeg.livejournal.com
I get my Coldwater Creek stuff on eBay for pretty good prices.

:)

Date: 2008-07-27 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I hear you - I'm 61 with more than 20 extra pounds, although I'm a lot shorter. I buy exclusively online - hate shopping in stores.

1. Land's End - their online Outlet has terrific sales
2. recently discovered DuluthTrader - blue collar work clothes - great Tshirts
3.Cabela's
4. Echo the recommendation for Eddie Bauer - also Orvis or LLBeans - I get emails about all the sales...

psw456 - can't get my logon working...

Date: 2008-07-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
I've had luck with pants and jackets at J Jill, which specializes in the look I call 'aging upper middle class art student'. Lots of knits and cotton w/ spandex. The first outfit I bought from them was a charcoal summer-weight worsted wool trouser suit that never wrinkles and that I'm still wearing 10 years later.

Shirts are iffier, since sizes seem to be all over the lot.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caoilfhionn.livejournal.com
I adore their stuff, but it's well worth stalking the clearance items in-store and online. Everything you don't want to spend $70 on will eventually get down to $24, if you're willing to risk your size going out of stock.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
Oh, yes--I've learned to wait for sales. Recently bought a lovely black velvet jacket with a shawl collar and carved buttons and four pairs of office casual slacks for about the same price I would have paid for the jacket pre-sale. I've been waiting for one style of slacks to go on sale, though, but it's been months and I fear the size thing--I may crack.

Date: 2008-07-27 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manywaters.livejournal.com
Ebay is also awesome for stalking your preferred brands.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldyoueva.livejournal.com
Or great if you know what you want. I knew I wanted something in my size with stripes, and a few clicks later I found denim pin-striped walking shorts.

Given my budget constraints, I'm more in the Wal-Mart/K-Mart demographic (I like Target but they've decided women my size are Right Out), and if I go with no preconceived notions, I've gotten some great things.

Date: 2008-07-28 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katmoonshaker.livejournal.com
Oh yeah!! EBay. EBay is Your Friend. ::nod nod:: So long as you a) know what you want, b) know how much it Really Is Worth, and c) know how to see if the seller is Good.

Date: 2008-07-28 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 6-penny.livejournal.com
I used to like J Jill until I read that they were one of the companies that are big in sweat shops in American Samoa.

clothes

Date: 2008-07-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
They don't design for us because we don't spend every penny of our disposable income buying new clothes to attract a mate/look beautiful to the competition. We wear things out, we like our old outfits, and , of course, we are not a size 0.
I buy in Santa Fe, broomstick skirts, loose cotton shirts ( usually guatemalan men's- or the Boulder Army Store- at least affordable and un- froo froo ) (Is that a word?) Once in a while Macy's has a sort of respectable matronly something on sale. Sometimes. Rarely.
I despise fashion designers, dept. stores, and media moguls who make endless fart joke movies. Sigh.
Welcome to Denver. It is HOT, dry, but you will die of cold in the air-conditioned hotelness, I bet.
Nanette, who hopes she has figured out this comment thing.

Re: clothes

Date: 2008-07-28 12:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hey, Nanette The word I learned in Denver was phoo-foo(as in phooey on you?) for all that stuff that goes with the under20 stage. Make-up, jewelry, 50 pairs of shoes etc etc. Jenny from WA (now, formerly from Denver)

Date: 2008-07-27 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleary.livejournal.com
I have the opposite problem: I'm younger, though not quite young enough to go for the baby-doll look that seems to be the trend... but all my local stores cater to the retiree set. (I'm not big on kitten-appliqued sweaters saying "Best Grandma!" Alas.) We used to have a Casual Corner, but it closed.

Date: 2008-07-27 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
I'm not big on kitten-appliqued sweaters saying "Best Grandma!"

Not my style, either, because, well...truth in advertising and all. And, honestly, the last thing I had with an appliqued feline on it was the felt circle skirt I had in...fifth grade? Ghod, I loved that garment.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
There's also the problem of how much stuff to take when one has to carry it. My pack is like 3D Tetris already, and I can't decide whether I'll get enough use out of the laptop to make it worth taking it.

I'm thinking there's bound to be a laundromat in Denver.

Date: 2008-07-27 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wouldyoueva.livejournal.com
If you don't want to waste valuable con time doing laundry try Washway Laundry. They're on public transportation, you can pay them to do your laundry for you AND if you go to http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Washway.Laundry.303-377-0755/coupons
you can print out a coupon.

I'm just packing 3 day's worth (plus two dress up outfits), and sending my laundry out to be done.

Date: 2008-07-27 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for that link. I'll certainly be doing that.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malkingrey.livejournal.com
Me? Mostly the L. L. Bean online catalog, plus any place I can find that sells women's gathered denim skirts. (I don't like jeans. I never have liked jeans; even when I was young and skinny, my hips and jeans never really got along. But I do like denim.)

Date: 2008-07-27 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I have the opposite wardrobe problem. All shorts and ts are so old they have holes in them, and the waistbands have frazzled almost completely.

so I went online to the lands end sale (this was a week ago, before the daughtermobile piled yet another thousand bucks onto the debt, or I would just be wearing the holey stuff yet another year) and found about eight items in plain colors, some of them men's clothes, for fifty bucks.

I do wish that there was someone who'd wake up and see all of us aging Boomers, because there is a potential market there, but I wonder if this is yet another way that older woman just plain become invisible.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janni.livejournal.com
Heh. Every time I head north in winter, I run into the reverse problem: a dearth of non-casual winter clothes.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:38 pm (UTC)
readinggeek451: green teddy bear in plaid dress (Default)
From: [personal profile] readinggeek451
L.L. Bean and Land's End. Plus, occasionally, Penney's. For those rare times when I need something somewhat dressy, Catherine's and Dress Barn.

Date: 2008-07-27 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardott.livejournal.com
J. Jill is my favorite, but yeah, the prices are outrageous. I have to stop in once a year or so, though. If I could, I'd buy nearly everything in the store.

With the coming of Budget Tightening, I've started going to Ross. I can find tons of pretty T's that fit me without making me look like a 20-year-old wanna be. It's the only place to buy jeans - I can find something that fits and they don't cost $140...

Date: 2008-07-27 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1crowdedhour.livejournal.com
Thrift shops. I am at least 40 lbs. overweight, so it never takes very long to look through the choices available. This means I often come away empty-handed. But when it works, it's great. Well-made clothes that I can machine wash and hang dry.

I fear what the thrift shop selection will be like in two years, when the styles on sale lately have been discarded. Truly horrid stuff out there now.

Date: 2008-07-27 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
But when it works, it's great.

The local area is a little thin on quality thrift shops, though I did score two wonderful wool suit jackets at the local Goodwill last fall. Fit like they were made for me.

There's bound to be a better grade of thrift shop in Camden. Any excuse for a road trip *g*

Back when I was a nip of a thing, living in Baltimore, and wearing guy's Slim Jeans, all the Roland Park ladies donated their, ahem, old fur coats to their church thrift store. Now that was worth a road trip...

Nice pic of you and Steve

Date: 2008-07-28 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookmobiler.livejournal.com
Wrong sex for this discussion :) but I do have to wonder what Steve is packing.
Would you have any time between the Con and carousel hunting to shop in Denver?
Being on the scene they might still be selling suitable attire. And some of the locals might be able to steer you to some real bargains.

Date: 2008-07-27 07:13 pm (UTC)
timepiece: Page of Pentacles from Tarot of the Cat Poeple Deck (Default)
From: [personal profile] timepiece
Land's End
Talbots
Chadwicks.com

Everyone seems to be having a massive sale right now.

Clothes

Date: 2008-07-27 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I also fit the tall (5'10") and overweight (wish it was only 20#)category. I love Coldwater Creek. Their clothes fit and look nice. They are way expensive, but do last. There are CC outlet stores around. Also they have good online sales twice a year - like half off. I check their website on a regular basis. Good luck in your search.

Date: 2008-07-27 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moon-happy.livejournal.com
Yup, Eddie Bauer (talls!) for all pants and some tops and Coldwater Creek, though the latter stopped offering talls a few years ago. Though the Creek is down a notch in my book without talls many tops are cut long, so I do find tops there (never find pants there any more.) I find stuff at Old Navy, Gap, and Banana Republic, even with my extra pounds, enough to keep me going back to check but not to take me far out of my way. Dillards and Macy's have some of the designers that work well on us, too, Liz Sport and a few others that escape me right now. I, too, shop the sales; that's fun!

why don't they cater to us?

Date: 2008-07-27 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amm-me.livejournal.com
Because we don't buy enough clothes! Listen to us on this thread. We're the generation that had three pairs of jeans and didn't even own a dress when we were in college, and we haven't changed much, unless we are stuck in office jobs and forced to dress accordingly.

As a grad student teaching assistant in NYC in the eighties, I wore my normal jeans-an-a-T-shirt while teaching biology labs. My students were almost uniformly in skirts and ruffled blouses, and many of them in heels. In Biology Lab! I'm out of touch, I don't know what they would be wearing today.
Abigail

Date: 2008-07-28 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spudsmom.livejournal.com
Coldwatercreekoutlet.com
Sometimes I have a difficult time because most of the clothes are for the vertically well endowed but they are quality clothes and very reasonably priced at the outlet. Also Kohls and Costco, yes I buy clothes at Costco.

Date: 2008-07-28 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
What's Costco?

Oh, wait! It's like Sam's Club, right? We don't have them here. Must not have been in existence for twenty years*.



*ref: A friend's comment, upon finding that we had moved to Maine: "In case of nuclear attack, I'd definitely move to Maine, because it takes everything twenty years to get there."

Date: 2008-07-28 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spudsmom.livejournal.com
Yes Costco is a "Big Box Store". Costco was founded in Seattle Washington in 1983 but really didn't start to get big until the 1990's. Maybe in 10 years or so... Hold on to the dream!

Date: 2008-07-28 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You probably won't have time in Denver to shop(!), but I've sometimes found great clothing items while on vacations in other cities. The convention is downtown, and I think within convenient distance of stores...

Date: 2008-07-28 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katmoonshaker.livejournal.com
I hit consignment stores myself. That's where I find Good Clothes that don't cost an arm and a leg. Although finding clothes in a Style I Like That Actually Fit is... interesting in the extreme. Not so much as it used to be now that I'm about 50# overweight ::sigh::. I'm 5'8" and weigh 175#.

But my inseam is 34" (my husband wears a 30", we find this a source of vast amusement... okay, me more than he), which makes jeans difficult although the women's jean industry is Finally Getting a Modicum of a Clue. (Thank You God!!!) At least we now have petite, average, and tall! Oh and I wear a DD. And have very very very... make that VERY long arms. Which makes finding shirts that are long enough, fit me in the bust, and actually fit my torso... interesting. ::rolls eyes:: Add to that the fact that I have a tendency to walk into the so-called women's section and walk back out. Okay, except for some of the silk items. I like silk. Silk is Good. And linen. Linen is Good too.

It's worse when I'm at my healthy weight... which is 125-135. heh. We won't even go there. Which is why I tend to shop at consignment shops. At this time of year most of them will be buy winter clothes but if you hurry you'll find summer stuff on sale. RUN! Run like the wind!! They have sillllllk. They have linnnnnnen! Go. Go now. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200. Truuuuuust me. Don't you trust. Look at my innocent face. ::grin::

Tried looking at Mardens?

Date: 2008-07-28 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just got back from a visit to old stomping grounds in Maine -- from Kittery all the way up to Bar Harbor. (Helps to go with guys who are looking for specific old tools and don't mind shopping).

We stopped at several branches of Mardens (for those who don't know, http://www.mardens.com, an odd lot and deep discount store) and I saw women's clothes in many sizes including some plus sizes, very well priced. And some BEAUTIFUL men's shirts, alas they were too large for me. I was sooooo tempted by the linen-look tiny floral print....You can never tell what you'll find, of course. We stopped at Biddeford, Portland, and Grey -- never did make it over to Sanford or Lewiston-Auburn, which was always my favorite Mardens.

If you're looking at chain stores, try the Avenue; they specialize in plus sizes. While some of their stuff is much younger than I like to dress, there are some classics like this:
http://www.avenue.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langiId=-1&store=326&partNumber=1262389A&storeId=326&backURL=MercadoSearch?rBack=textValue=Perfect%20Shirt;sortValue=Relevance;pageValue=1

I have that style in a print that's become my favorite casual-dressy shirt.

Don't think they have a store nearer to you than New Hampshire, but they're running a sale on-line at the moment.

I also like a lot of the Columbia sports clothing -- some of it is very tailored and neat. They often have women's sizes up to 20, although I buy the men's stuff too. I often web or mail-order from Campmor
(http://www.campmor.com ); some items are up to 80% off original retail.

--Susan

another clothes idea

Date: 2008-07-28 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
try CJ Banks or Christopher Banks depending on the size needed. They have nice clothes ( I used to be a Coldwater Creek fan, just as nice stuff and nicer prices at CJ Banks) They still have their summer stuff available and just started an online thing. I'm from Alaska, so the shipping isn't nice, but they have better rates for the lower 48. They do have "tall" and when I was at the store for the first time a lady came in and tried on the "tall" slacks and they were long enough for her. She was quite tall... good luck with the clothes.

Sierra Trading Post

Date: 2008-07-28 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I live in a town blessed with good thrift shops, so my first stop is there. But when all else fails, and I've gotta have something, I try Sierra Trading Post. The Bargain Barn area has stuff in all sorts of styles, sizes, and price ranges. Some is extremely upper-crust stuff that's very much not me, but some Orvis and Royal Robbins stuff I've gotten there on sale has not been disappointing at all.

Laura

Clothes

Date: 2008-07-31 03:26 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Is there a JC Penney Outlet anywhere reasonably close by? I am almost 6 feet tall as well and in my 40's and I find a BUNCH of stuff in their Tall Section. I like their Worthington and East 5th brands. Classic, tailored and mature without looking old. Barring that, you could try their website. The prices aren't as good, but they also have ultra-talls, in case your legs are even longer than mine!

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