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...or the man from Mars. Did Marvin have a lady friend?

Anyhow!

Who has a Wii? How does it work? I see people saying that they exercise with their Wii, how's that happen; does it need to go for a walk?

Wii-ness

Date: 2009-12-25 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've seen 'new' diagnoses of "wii-elbow" or "wii-shoulder" from the sports games... so I guess it must do something.

...and I've been told that if you have the balance-board and you are a bit too 'fluffy' that your little Mii avatar will cry and fuss at you, so there's the motivation.

Date: 2009-12-25 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gingerwood.livejournal.com
A Wii uses a cordless remote, and you manipulate the games by waving the remotes around. The simplest 'exercise' game is probably tennis, where you stand and swing the remote like a racket. Another is bowling, ditto. For more elaborate exercise, you attach an auxiliary remote to the main one so that you now have a remote in each hand, connected by a cord. You also can buy a board that you step onto and off of and do yoga, balance games, step exercises and strength training.

Date: 2009-12-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rdmasters.livejournal.com
Nope, Marvin never had a lady-friend. Or a man-friend. Or even a you're-not-quite-sure-which-but-is-still-really-cute-friend.

Moving on.

Wiis and exercise. A Wii console, in combination with a balance board, and the FitPlus software (or with a camera and some other software), can be used for light exercise. The board has four pressure sensors (on in each corner), and can determine how you are shifting your weight. This allows it to track movements such as walking on the spot, stepping on and off the board, and various positional changes, such as you get with various yoga and weight-training exercises.

The FitPlus package also keeps track of other exercises you have done, records your weight over time, and lets you set goals for yourself.

Provided you have the discipline to keep it up, it is a very good way to maintain an exercise program in the face of hostile weather, or when rehabilitating. If you are really dedicated, and put in 45 minutes or more a day, it really helps with weight loss, too.

It will not replace (completely) real exercise, but it helps. And if you can get others in the household to participate as well, it encourages a low level of competition by maintaining leader-boards for each activity.

Date: 2009-12-25 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimuro.livejournal.com
He had an instant, just-add-water, what-ever-the-heck-it-is, great big hulking minion that he would send off after Bugs or Daffy or who-ever.

Usually the just-add-water pellet was dispensed from a coin-operated candy dispenser with a glass reservoir of pellets and usually the "good guy" ended up smashing the glass bowl and flooding the pellets with water.

Or so I remember.

He also had some sort of astro dog side-kick on occasion.

doggy sidekick

Date: 2009-12-25 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimuro.livejournal.com
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519NA8STZ5L._SL500_AA280_.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/pluto/27/marvin2.jpg
http://www.dogwoodvalley.com/htmlfiles/marvin.html

And the just-add-water
http://www.mysticmedusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/55962384qj8.jpg

and dispenser
http://www.gargaro.com/webpages/general/marvin7.jpg

Date: 2009-12-25 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My dad is in his early 80s and does PT for balance and exercise and spinal stenosis 3x a week; his PT includes using a Wii balance board - there's Wii Fit, Wii Fit Plus, and also some Yoga software, etc. We have one at our house and the boxing will give you a good workout. We love ours; go for it.
Barbara in Texas

Date: 2009-12-25 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romsfuulynn.livejournal.com
You may want to look at the WII Fit on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Fit-Plus-Balance-Board-Nintendo/dp/B002BSA3EM/

(It also requires the game console.)

The board manages weight, has games that are exercise, etc. and is what most people are talking about.

Date: 2009-12-25 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusha.livejournal.com
My husband and I just got a Wii.

There are two ways that you can exercise with it. One is Wii Fit (or the newer version, Wii Fit Plus). Played with the Balance Board, it has an assortment of strength and yoga activities, as well as games for balance, aerobics, and general fitness. I like the games better than the "training routines" (among other things, the perky trainer [available in male and female; perky, alas, compulsory] is only in the training routines.

My favorite games so far are: rolling a bubble down a river (balance game) - control speed by leaning forward and backward, control direction by leaning side to side. I don't make it very far yet, though. "Perfect Ten", which is one of the general games. Your Mii (avatar) is standing in the middle of four bumpers. Numbers appear on the bumpers and you have to swing your hips to hit a combination of bumpers that add up to 10. I like it because it's a thinking as well as moving game.

The other way to exercise with the Wii is with sports games. Because you control the game, in part, by swinging the remote, it's possible to get quite a workout playing tennis, or bowling, or slicing things up with a sword (one of my favorites from Wii Sports Resort), or canoeing, or playing Frisbee...

There are also a lot of other sorts of games available for the Wii, lest you think it's a gym in disguise. I've got Trivial Pursuit, and a puzzle game called Safecracker, and I just picked up (but haven't played yet) something called Igor: The Game. I just couldn't resist...

Date: 2009-12-25 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otaku-tetsuko.livejournal.com
I like mine and was very faithful for three months - then I traveled, and had an arm injury (from digging my path in the garden) that didn't like the tennis/frisbee/jerky kind of games, and I haven't been on it for a while. I have Wii Fit and also Active, plus the kids and friends have given several other games that involve "exercise" - the answer is, you do as well as you decide to, but it does help keep track and the Wii board doubles as a scale. I'm looking forward to FitPlus for having more step routines. I very much enjoy the balance games, and the stretching exercises have helped me a lot with both balance and flexibility. I do hate the perky instructors though.

I think Active gives you more burn and it includes a resistance band for some strength training, but I can't do half the exercises because they involve some kind of lunging or jumping, which I can't do.

It was worth the investment to me - I do NOT like working out in front of other people, so this is much better for my personality. And is more coaching than if you were working out alone, but certainly not a personal trainer.

Just my two cents worth.

Date: 2009-12-25 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneminutemonkey.livejournal.com
Given that I don't think we ever saw a distaff version of his race, it's no wonder Marvin was always complaining about not having an Earth-shattering kaboom....

Date: 2009-12-25 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
Marvin had K-9 as his companion, and an unhealthy fixation on Duck Dodgers. Plus that Kaboom.

Date: 2009-12-25 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] groblek.livejournal.com
We use the EA Sports active program for the wii - it gives you a personal trainer and leads you through a combination of aerobic and light strength training. You use a rubber band to give a bit of resistance in some exercises and in others t tracks various places you hold the remotes or strap the nunchuck to your leg to work out if you're actually doing the exercises.

Having tried both the Wii fit and Active, one thing we've found is that the Wii fit is annoyingly insulting about personal performance, while Active is far too perky and prone to complements. It'd be nice to have an adjustment slider for level of positive feedback from the trainer.

Wii operation - how it works sorts of stuff.

Date: 2009-12-26 12:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The short version is "pretty well".

The medium version is that it uses a combination of one or more motion sensors, an infrared camera, various switches and joysticks, and a four point pressure sensitive device (think four scales, one on each corner of a small board) to read information about the position and movement of your body and hands. These data are used in games and exercise simulations.

The remotes have been re-purposed on occasion with other computers for various interesting tasks. The wireless system is the same one that's used for cell phones, but in a different mode. The base unit include wireless internet capabilities as well.

Compared to other gaming systems the video subsystem is somewhat less capable, so the first person shooter types of applications are a bit less graphic.

We just acquired one here, and I find it to be pretty darn nifty. So far I find the ping-pong game somewhat realistic, and the Avatar game (which uses that board thing for controlling a flying fighting platform) to be fun to watch. I've read up on the unintended usage sorts of things and find that more interesting than the games. The unit's for my wife though and I'm restraining myself from doing anything that might break her toy.

Sam Robinson (who can't log in at the moment)

Date: 2009-12-26 12:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galeni.livejournal.com
It's fairly easy for me to ignore the mild snark of the weight voiceover, and on the Wii Fit (original) the female trainer is only mildly perky (and if you click a button on the controller she moves on to the next screen before she's done with this one). I'm overweight and a slug and find the Fit helps me maintain some sort of balance practice, which I really need. I don't use it often, but I try. And as someone else said, the games can be fun. And it opens more games the more hours you accumulate using the ones already open, so you have a goal to work towards.

I got the new Fit 2.0 software for Christmas, so I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's supposed to be better at making a workout routine, and I liked the routine of the old one. Balance testing on the yoga has helped me do better at yoga, too, because it tells you when you're wavering and not centered.

You can get the Fit and the software and the console as a package. It does have to be hooked up to a tv, last I checked with RCA connectors (red, white and yellow, ignore the red if your tv only has the yellow (video) and a single audio (white). I'm happy with it, anyway, and use it more than I did my exercyle, my Tony Little gazelle, or any of the other exercise gear I've bought over the years.

Date: 2009-12-26 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kahva.livejournal.com
I have yet to regain my living space enough to use the Wii Fit I bought earlier this year, still sorting through the things brought up from my Mom's after she passed in April, but I intend to use the Wii Fit to help with balance and weight loss, plus I'm hoping that it will also eventually help with my arthritis, improve my movement and strength in my knees.

In the meantime, my five year old great nephew got one for Christmas, and I played bowling with him this afternoon. He beat me rather handily. I can, however, do better at Guitar Hero than he can. For now...

Date: 2009-12-26 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I bought mine specifically for the Wii fit balance games. My ankles were weak and it was recommended for strengthening balance and building a bit of strength. It worked. Walking became much easier.

The games are very short. It tracks exercise time (not elapsed time). You can get in 15-20 minutes easily just by doing of 2-3 repeats of a subset of the balance games. You do get your heart rate up some. You can work up a sweat. You definitely get your heart rate up for the strength training exercises, and I like the guided step routine.

On the weight monitoring and encouragment you get with the Wii fit. Your avatar jumps for joy and spins when you get it right. The scale isn't accurate and it calculates your Wii fit age on some rubber band theory: it bounced me from 28 to 76 in one day. And it will scold you if you fall off of a routine.

Happy Holidays.

Wii Balance Board

Date: 2010-01-21 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wjb3-reads.livejournal.com
( http://gizmodo.com/5450150/in-early-tests-99-wii-balance-board-outperforms-17885-medical-rig )

Clark's team has already published a paper that verifies the Wii balance board is "clinically comparable" to the nearly $18,000 lab force platform.

=FIN

Very Basic Wii Information

Date: 2009-12-27 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpimpernel.livejournal.com
I also got a Wii for Xmas, and was researching the exercise components for myself, so I'll share what I found out.

The Wii is made up of multiple parts. The base unit ($200) comes with:
- 1 computer console
- one wireless control that is made up of 2 parts:
a Rectangular Remote controller
and a kidney-shaped "Nunchuk" controller that gets wired to the rectangular part when you need to do things with 2 hands or multiple body parts.
- an infrared receiver/detector that sits on your TV
- Wii Sports games (Baseball, bowling, boxing, golf, tennis)
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Additional games run about $50 when newly released and come down to about $20 when they've been around a while.

Because the controllers can be used in 3 dimensions (using accelerometers?) as well as by using buttons & joysticks, games can be much more physical, are often played standing up. There are many props that have been designed to hold the remotes to make the gameplay feel more realistic for a specific activity. For example a steering wheel for driving games, various sporting things (bats, racquets, golf club), swords, guns/rifles, etc. ($15-$40)
Image Image Image Image Image

Also, it seems that there are far more multiplayer games for Wii then other systems, most games are for 2-4 players, so you can both/all play at the same time. But you'll have to buy additional Remotes ($40) & Nunchuks ($20) The remotes run on 2 AA batteries, so buying the rechargeable battery packs & charging station is a good idea upfront. ($25)
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If you want to exercise, in you can buy additional kits/packages:
There are only a few pieces of additional equipment for exercise (strength training, balance, yoga & such):
- The balance board ($100)
- 2 two pound dumbbells (available in a bundle)
- Stretch Band ($20)

Exercise software choices:
- Fit Plus (supersedes Fit) ($20) (This software title is often bundled with the balance board for about $100 - $150 depending on what else is included, mat, gel covers & storage case for balance board)
- Your Shape ($70)
- Active Life: Extreme Challenge ($60)
- Daisy Fuentes Pilates ($20)
- Sports (free with console)
- Sports Resort ($50)

If shopping online HSN.com & QVC.com often have some nice deals if you know what you want.

Speaking of chargers...

Date: 2009-12-28 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusha.livejournal.com
I made sure to get rechargeable batteries with an induction charger, so I can charge remotes without having to remove the MotionPlus accessory or the silicone skin.

Image (http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Mcb58630n001-Wii-Aircharge-Inductive/dp/B002R0DY0Y/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1261961831&sr=8-20)

Also a note on the Motion Plus: it's an attachment for the Wii Remote that adds more accelerometers, improving its ability to sense motions. Since we wanted to end up with two remotes, two Motion Plus attachments, and two nunchuks, we bought the console (includes one remote and one nunchuk), Wii Sports Resort (includes one Motion Plus attachment), the black remote/MotionPlus combo (cheaper than buying them separately), and a black nunchuk to go with the black remote. (Either nunchuk will talk to either remote, but since the black and white nunchuks were the same price, I figured I'd go for the color coordination.

Image (http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-version-Nintendo-Motion-Plus/dp/B002FIZHGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1261962448&sr=1-1)

Date: 2009-12-27 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardott.livejournal.com
We got the Wii FitPlus a few weeks ago and we both really like it. I've been using it for a yoga and strength training mostly. I do the aerobics, but none of them are very intense, and it takes forever to burn enough calories. I think there's a dance program, and I could really use that. When it comes to aerobics, I'm happiest if I'm dancing. I hate running, and it's the only Wii Fit program that lets you burn a lot of calories.

I think it's a great investment, especially given where you live. I don't have the excuse of not getting outside in the winter, but you can totally use it.

Wii Fit vs. Lego Star Wars

Date: 2010-01-05 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wjb3-reads.livejournal.com
I find the _Wii Fit_ a good weight/ exercise journal with some beginner exercises built in.

Highlights from my _Wii Fit_ use:
--I weigh myself each morning and enter 30 minutes of exercise (walk to and from subway) in my exercise log. If you do not exercise each day, it nags you. I also Free Run every other day (see recumbent bike).
--Set my goal as 2 lbs in 6 months so the goal does not annoy me.
--Instead of “Running in Place” for 30 minutes of Free Running, I put the remote in the pocket of my cargo pants and recumbent bike during DVD viewing. When I do bike sprints up to 30 mph, the program does squawk so I turn off the volume.

Annoyances:
--Must waste time switching between exercises. On a workday, I usually just Advance Step then Free Run for 30 minutes (see recumbent bike).

Given a choice between the _Wii Fit_ and a 5 DVD Player with Disc Resume, I would pick the DVD Player. I can change DVDs while on my recumbent bike, and it remembers where I was on my DVD.

I actually play the Wii _Lego Star Wars_ on the futon without moving my arms or legs. So calories burned may vary for Wii games.
=FIN

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