rolanni: (drosselmeyer)
[personal profile] rolanni
Creativity is messy -- yet another thing they don't tell you when you set yourself up to be a writer.

I don't mean messy, like messy thinking -- the kind that turns "defend your thesis" into "which knife do you choose in defense of your thesis," or being able to look at a slab of stone and see the wombat inside of it -- that's what creativity is, turning everyday things onto their heads, being able to see things invisible to the daily eye.

No, what I mean is that creativity is actually messy, in that, the act of being creative generates a mess. You'd expect this with the visual arts -- sculpture? yeah, you're gonna create all kinds of a mess. Painting? No way around it.

You wouldn't, however, think that writing would generate a mess. I mean, what do you do as a writer, besides sit in front of a computer and hit keys? Maybe a note pad and a pen, sitting discreetly by your elbow, a coffee cup that needs to be washed -- but really, the mess ought to be minimal.

I've just spent the last two hours in my office, cleaning up the aftermath of Ghost Ship. My office is as bad as I've ever seen it -- the floor covered with piles of Goddess only knows what; my desktop inches thick in paper. The top of the bookshelf next to my desk supporting several dangerously high mixed stacks of paper, CDs, books, pens, and pads. . . . .

Anyhow, I started at the rolling file, which is right by the door, and began collecting the pieces of Ghost Ship, and only the pieces of Ghost Ship. By the time I knocked off for lunch, I had a stack of various printed and handwritten pages in a neat pile and the remains of eight (eight!) yellow pads put neatly away on their shelf. I could actually see a foot or two of rug, and could walk into (and leave) the room without having to dodge piles of paper. So -- progress.

I came back from lunch and decided to push my advantage to the outside wall, so I had a consolidated base from which to move inward. I sat down on the rug and picked up the pile of paper next to the teddy bear.

A copy of the talk that I gave at the Fairfield Library, some SRM files that had been pulled for the accountant and returned, a folder with the guidelines for several anthologies I long missed the deadline for. . .

. . .and another seventy-five pages of Ghost Ship chapters, notes, random scenes -- aaarrrgh!

*deep breath*

I think I have them all now, piled up neatly in the corner made by the file cabinet and the bookshelf. The printout of the submission draft is on the newly liberated top of the bookshelf -- I'll need to read that, RSN, so we can fine-tune the proposal for the next book that Steve wrote back at the beginning of September, long before Ghost Ship was finished. The horrendous drifts of paper on my desk seem to be exclusively ignored data entry, a few bills, and some launch party business.

It's gonna take me weeks to go through all this stuff, sort it, enter it and file it. My own fault, I guess; I'm sure other writers are more pro-active with their creative mess and don't let them get out of hand.

Right?

Date: 2010-10-10 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kristine-smith.livejournal.com
My problem is more the secondary mess that accrues as I work on a book: the mail that piles up. Catalogs. Magazines. During one bad stretch, I was subscribed to New Scientist and Science News, both weeklies. I pushed the stacks of unread issues under my desk, and before I knew it, a year had passed and the stacks hit the underside of the desk.

Date: 2010-10-10 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
*loves the icon*

I stopped renewing magazines; they just stacked up and Created Guilt(tm). The exception is the New Yorker, which is what I read when I'm too deep in Book Brain to be able to stick with anyone else's novel...

Date: 2010-10-10 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blitheringpooks.livejournal.com
Such a relief to know I'm not the only one!

Date: 2010-10-10 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrathchylde.livejournal.com
Hi there! I followed a post from Ysabetwordsmith and had to add you - I'm also from Waterville, though I live in Florida now. Just thought I'd say hi and hope you don't mind the add.

Date: 2010-10-10 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Hey, welcome!

We're having some gorgeous fall weather!

Date: 2010-10-10 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 1crowdedhour.livejournal.com
I'm sure other writers are more pro-active with their creative mess and don't let them get out of hand.

::doubles up laughing::

Riight.

Date: 2010-10-10 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cailleuch.livejournal.com
I wrote a bunch of classes this summer and although I have now found my desktop there are still three desk high stacks of reference books and notepads. All of which need to be hauled into school so that they may reside in my office there.

I have to agree that, in volume I might have made more of a mess as a potter, but I still succeed to bury the house when I am "just sitting in front of the computer". I'm in the process of trying to unbury the office because I need to start working on some actual art.

Date: 2010-10-10 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katmoonshaker.livejournal.com
You mean there are people who don't understand this?? I've been reading since I was six. I was reading the "Little House" series in 2nd grade and went on from there. Among the books I read were those which included biographies or autobiographies of authors. Given what I read, as well as my own experience writing poetry & short stories (only thing I ever sent out was a poem to MZB, but it was entirely her own fault and not for publication) & music I would never ever ever expect a writer to have a clean house. Well, unless there is a live in coming up behind them and asking in a moment of clarity "Where would you like FITB?" I mean, really!

Date: 2010-10-10 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martianmooncrab.livejournal.com
the pile of paper next to the teddy bear

The teddy bear needs to be more organized and to put things back when done with them..

Date: 2010-10-10 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Not his fault; he needs me to lift him up so he can reach the file drawer.

Date: 2010-10-10 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormsdotter.livejournal.com
And here I feel that writing is my least messy hobby!

...says the woman who sews Master-level costumes, works leather, and builds boffer swords for LARPing. My reference books sit neatly on my bookshelf, my files are neatly on the computer and in my filing cabinet, my notebooks tend to stay in my bag for when I have an idea on the fly.

This may change if I make a few sales. :)

Date: 2010-10-11 12:57 am (UTC)
pedanther: (discworld)
From: [personal profile] pedanther
I'm sure other writers are more pro-active with their creative mess and don't let them get out of hand. Right?

Terry Pratchett's standard answer to "What is the secret of your prolific output?" is "When I finish writing a book, I have two choices: I can start another book, or I can tidy my desk. And I don't know how to tidy my desk."

Writing a Book

Date: 2010-10-11 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claire774.livejournal.com
Pages some typed, some handwritten, notes, some pages written on yellow pads. Random scenes. Seems like a lot. Then has to be all put together to make sense.

Just wondering how your characters introduce themselves to you. From the notes in back of one of the omnibus editions that I have of your novels I think I read that you wrote Local Custom first. It starts with a conversation between Er Thom and his mother. Imagine that. First except for the part in italics at the very top of the chapter which is probably from the Liaden Code of Proper Conduct.

In my opinion one of the best first lines of any novel is from Agent of Change. "The man was wasn't Terrance O'Grady came along quietly." How did you know he wasn't Terrance O' Grady?

Aha. The next book after Ghost Ship is being proposed.

Chickie wouldn't be allowed in your office. She tends to chew on paper. The teddy bear is probably a good choice.
C.

Date: 2010-10-11 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
So true. So very true. I had a surface on this desk, once.

after book cleanup

Date: 2010-10-11 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mtz322.livejournal.com
I don't have the exact wording, but after finishing a book a while back Lois McMaster Bujold comment something about Rumor has it that there were horizontal surfaces in her house.

Date: 2010-10-12 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magda-vogelsang.livejournal.com
Creativity is definitely messy. You should see my poor kitchen when I've finished decorating a wedding cake for friends (as I do about once a year). Pans, cakeboards, knives, spatulas, icing, bags, tips, extra flowers and decorations, design sketches and diagrams, tools, etc.

Date: 2010-10-12 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endlessrarities.livejournal.com
I just showed this to my husband, in an effort to make him more understanding of my creative mess:-(

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