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Article here.

We have so far raised $44.62 for Planned Parenthood through sales of The Cat's Job. Thank you.  As we said yesterday, we will be donating the proceeds of February sales of The Cat's Job to Planned Parenthood, and, yes, we are still Doing That.

If you would prefer to donate to Planned Parenthood directly, here's that link again.


Date: 2012-02-03 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starrcat.livejournal.com
Before we celebrate, let's make sure that Komen actually refunds PP. Though after what I have read about them that has come to light because of this, they have lost me completely.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/03/1061450/-Lazy-media-reports-Komen-Foundation-decision-as-reversal-It-isnt?via=blog_1

Date: 2012-02-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] attilathepbnun.livejournal.com
*shakes head* Methinks that woman has forgot what Komen was founded FOR in the first palce ...

Misc

Date: 2012-02-04 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claire774.livejournal.com
Thanks for supporting Planned Parenthood. If you are a woman and you can afford health care you are lucky. In some communities the only women's health care is provided by the local Planned Parenthood clinic.

I have to bring up a subject which it pains me to mention but I have to for the sake of the animals. Recently it was mentioned that Patrick Rothfuss supports Heifer International which supplies poor families, mostly in the third world, with livestock such as cows and goats. Celebrities including Rachel Ray and Susan Sarandon also support Heifer especially around Christmas.

I reached out to two huge experts in the field of animal welfare who I'm afraid agree with me that the program is a very bad idea. With the water and other resources used to raise livestock many more crops can be grown to feed many more people. Also livestock going to families who don't know how to care for them ends up with goats and cows being milked to death, etc.

Sometimes messing with people's traditional diet messes them up. For example the normal American diet causes wide spread obesity and its fellow traveler diseases in Native Americans and Hawaiians. Now in Hawaii folks are going back to their traditional diet to lose the pounds. As China adopts our traditional meat heavy Western Diet so disease is catching up with them. There used to be little obesity, heart disease, diabetes in China, but no more. See a book called The China Syndrome.



Re: Misc

Date: 2012-02-05 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pc333.livejournal.com
Milked to death?!? Good grief. I grew up on a dairy farm and I'm trying to think of how it would be possible to milk a cow to death. Might I suggest a bit more research...

Milked to Death

Date: 2012-02-05 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claire774.livejournal.com
If it turns out you can't afford to feed the cow or goat you have been given and you continue to milk it, it will die after a while. Milked and starved to death would be more accurate.

Or if you don't know what a goat or cow is supposed to eat then what you feed it will make it sick.

Example I rescued a rabbit from an apartment complex in Phoenix. I was told by the neighbors that the rabbit was being fed on toast.

And that's in Phoenix! Try Zimbabwe and I think you might be able to see what I mean.

Re: Milked to Death

Date: 2012-02-05 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pc333.livejournal.com
OK since I don't think rolanni wants an argument on her LJ I'm just going to respond once.

When a cow "gets low" i.e. is starving, not eating properly or is sick enough one of the things her body does is stop lactating in order to recover. Additionally the animal will stop cycling i.e. stop going into heat until her body is well enough to support a calf, if ever. Biology does not support the "milked to death" argument.

Starving to death is a possiblity but I believe sfminou has addressed that.

Well done for rescuing the rabit but I don't think you should equating someone who lives in a first world country who plainly has no sense with the situation that exists in third world countries.

Date: 2012-02-04 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sfminou.livejournal.com
Heifer International does NOT give animals to untrained people! One of the strengths of the organization is the training and support it provides for money-making agricultural production on a very small scale. Honeybees, rabbits, ducks, and small animals are appropriate in most areas. Water buffalo, sheep and goats are an economic boon to more than just the family which cares for them. Please visit some Heifer sites in this country and the third world before you diss them!

Heifer

Date: 2012-02-05 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claire774.livejournal.com
I am not an expert. Just going by what I was told. I'll pass on your comment.

But I think that the opinion of one of my experts still could stand. Wouldn't it be money better spent to provide better agricultural methods to these families? Animals take up much more resources. I saw the amount of water it takes to raise one cow. I can't remember it but it's huge. Probably it would be the same for water buffalo and goats.

As for sheep: everyone knows how destructive they are. Sheep pull the grass up by the roots so unless you've got an extremely well watered country like some of the US, Canada, England etc. Sheep are a really bad idea.

Re: Heifer

Date: 2012-02-05 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] pc333 is correct that I don't want a fight about Heifer International in these pages.

In general, I believe the organization tries not to send livestock into areas where they are inimical or where they will not thrive. They also provide training in livestock care and in animal husbandry.

They also send trees, and seedlings, bees, and fingerling fish, so it's not all sheep and water buffalo.

I have heard that some folk who claim they know better say that all of this is a bad idea. They might be right. I'm not an expert, either.

But! Any other discussion of the unsuitability of Heifer International as a charity ought to be addressed either to Heifer International itself, or to Mr. Rothfuss, who after all runs his Worldbuilders Charity annually -- which means he'll be doing it again next year.

Re: Heifer

Date: 2012-02-06 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claire774.livejournal.com
Ok. Will do.
C.

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