Weird Word Project

[rolanni]

Whoa, you guys have been busy!

I've got emails, and the LJ discussion, and two other folks from other venues who want to Wrangle, so -- allow me to sum up. If I've got any of this wrong, let me know.

1. johnhawkinson and ebartley have sorted out the Automagician work between them. Beth is point person.

2. Books currently being Wrangled:
*Agent of Change, Jessie_C
*Scout's Progress, sb_moof
*Crystal Soldier, redpimpernel
*Crystal Dragon, capricchio

3. Volunteers from other venues: Deborah Fishburn, Michele Ray. Beth take note -- I'll give them your email address? If you'd prefer another form of contact, let me know.

4. Wranglers requesting assignment: silverdragonma, marniferous, Deborah Fishburn, Michele Ray

4a. Assignments: silverdragonma -- Conflict of Honors; marniferous -- Fledgling. Pls get in touch with Beth (ebartley) for lists.
Deborah Fishburn -- Carpe Diem; Michele Ray -- Saltation. I'll let Deborah and Michele know this in my email pointing them to Beth; if there's another preference, we'll regroup from there.

5. Unclaimed titles: Local Custom, Plan B, I Dare, Balance of Trade, Mouse and Dragon, Ghost Ship (Dragon Ship).

5a. Yes, Local Custom has already been produced as an audiobook, and it is not, to the best of my knowledge, on the list of acquired titles, however! Steve and I will need the list for the Audio Lexicon Part of this exercise.

5b. Dragon Ship is obviously not out yet, but we hear that the eArc will be available realsoonnow, and that will be clean enough to work from.

6. Short stories: Someone, somewhere, asked if I want a list for each short story. It's possible, perhaps likely, that a list will be needed for the collections (two volumes, including all the stories in the AitLU chapbooks 1-17, plus Sweet Waters) that Baen will be publishing ... maybe in 2013? I'll be collating the stories into volumes next week, so -- short stories not a front-burner item.

7. What did I miss?

Comments

[ebartley.livejournal.com]

Handing out my email to any of the people involved in the project is fine; if anyone's claiming a book and stepping forward on their own, it's the name of this livejournal account at gmail.

[elaine bushore fisher (from livejournal.com)]

Anything for me? I would prefer one of the older books (Not Mouse and Dragon or Ghost Ship). I also have all the chapbooks (I think), although not in the AitLU editions, and Sweet Waters.

I'm going to be on (another!) Epic Road Trip this summer, once again driving from New York to the other coast and back. I won't be able to knit ALL the time. :) Trip out will be a straight run across I-80, but then we'll spend almost two weeks in California before a leisurely (and winding) drive back. Strangely enough, although reading from dead trees in the car makes me sick, reading from my computer screen does not.

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

You wanna try Balance of Trade?

Ghost Ship / Dragon Ship

[alon ziv (from livejournal.com)]

Can I volunteer for those? (I have the Ghost Ship eARC, and will buy Dragon Ship as soon as I hear it's out; the Ghost Ship ppb is pre-ordered...)

Re: Ghost Ship / Dragon Ship

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

You're on! Please email Beth (ebartleyATgmail) and she'll get you set up with Ghost Ship.

[jessie-c.livejournal.com]

Have we agreed upon a format yet? I have Agent of change currently in a spreadsheet workbook format (master list, Liaden words, Terran words, words of dubious provenance, and the inevitable misc.)
Before I get too deeply into it, how would you like to see our lists presented?

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

I'm still laboring under the assumption that it will be easier for the audiobook reader if the words are available in the order they appear in the book -- names, places, words, all smooshed up together. This may be entirely crack-brained, but it's what I've got.

[jessie-c.livejournal.com]

Well, it's what you get :)
I've got the master list just as you described, But wait, there's more! I added extra pages broken down into smaller sub-lists. And you don't even have to take the Ginsu knife! Do you have a spreadsheet program like Excel or something similar? I use OpenOffice, but I should be able to convert to the usual suspects' file formats.

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

Well, it's what you get :)

We have an accord :)

And an embarrassment of riches.

I use LibreOffice, OpenOffice's granddaughter, so I can take a ods file.

The gmail account is a little less twitchy about attachments than korval.com, so... rolanniATgmailDOTcom, please.

Thank you so very much!

[jessie-c.livejournal.com]

That's one down : )
Any others needing to be done?

Unclaimed titles

[jennifer briggs (from livejournal.com)]

I am open to wrangling any unclaimed title you need covered. I have print copies and digital copies, not picky on which book (love them all).

Re: Unclaimed titles

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

Plan B sound good to you?

Re: Unclaimed titles

[jennifer briggs (from livejournal.com)]

Plan B sounds fabulous! Sorry for the time delay, work has been...interesting.

[mbarker.livejournal.com]

Just an off-hand thought -- ages ago in a writing for radio journalism course that I took, one of the tricks they taught us was to take words with particular (pert-hick-you-lair) pronunciations and write them in the correct spelling, but then put a quasi-phonetic guide in parens after it. I noticed that they didn't advise using one of the phonetic alphabets or anything like that, just "common" words. Not sure if your audiobook readers would appreciate something like that, but the idea back then was that an annotated radio script was easier for news people to get right. Or at least close enough for radio broadcasting.

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

See, I'm thinking, if we give the readers a CD, then they can listen and make what notes make sense to them in the text. That way, we get the best of all words!

[mbarker.livejournal.com]

Ah! Yes, that works. Actual audio recordings? Back in the stone ages, we only had typewriters to try to do the job -- and they weren't even electric! Bang, bang, bang, bangety-bang, whirr BAM (carriage return -- hit it hard!). A CD... that would have been magic back then, I think. Sufficiently advanced technology...

Thanks. I remember having discussions with some announcers about whether the words I used to indicate pronunciation were pronounced the way I thought they were. A CD would have been a whole lot simpler.

[elaine bushore fisher (from livejournal.com)]

You left out the *ding!* at the end of the line, to tell you it was time for a carriage return.

[mbarker.livejournal.com]

Ah, you're right. With the margin settings actually set with little metal indicators. And of course there was the occasional pause while you fed in a new sheet of paper and straightened it out. Good times!

Page numbers??

[capricchio.livejournal.com]

Hi, are we settling for order the words appear in the novel and skipping page numbers? If you need page numbers, which format? (Hard bound, trade vesion etc, etc??) I started on Crystal Dragon last nigth and will do "I Dare" if you need it. THose are some of my favorites, so it workds for me. I suspect you may want to accumulate the lists and then have someone else read the stories and compare to the lists. Capricchio (aka Jeanne)

Re: Page numbers??

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

We're (boldly) going with the order in which the words appear, since I don't actually know which edition the readers will be reading from.

[eoma-p.livejournal.com]

I'll take Local Custom and Mouse and Dragon.

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

Please email Beth (ebartleyATgmail) and she'll get you set up with the proper lists.

[spiritdancer]

If anything remains, or a second look at one that has already been reviewed will help, I can take a look. I've got all of the currently available Baen ebook versions, most of the chapbooks, and a slew of print versions (including, but not limited to the MM stuff).

For spam control, either this username at livejournal, or melissa dot glasser at gmail will do ;)

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

You up for I Dare?

[spiritdancer]

Sounds good to me. FYI, Melissa G, formerly of WV, now in IA :)

I'm all done with Saltation...

[micheledear.livejournal.com]

May I have another?

Since it is no longer the weekend, it will likely take me a LEETLE longer than Saltation did.... ;)

[eoma-p.livejournal.com]

Outstanding questions in my mind:

1. In what format would you like files?
2. Names appear both together (Er Thom yos'Galan Clan Korval) and in separate chunks (Er Thom, yos Galan, Korval) within the text. Should the list show both the entire name and the chunks that occur?
3. Should compound English words be included (lockplate, counterchance, clanhouse?)

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

1. Ultimately, I need a list -- txt, doc (though not docx), rtf, odt are all good. I can also take an open office spreadsheet (ods), and probably an excel file.

2. The list should show the first occurrence of the full name (Er Thom yos'Galan Clan Korval) and also the first occurrence of any truncated form (Er Thom, Er Thom yos'Galan, yos'Galan)

3. Yanno? If you think they might throw somebody off their reading, leave 'em in. Better to err on the side of more information than less.

Typo List?

[redpimpernel.livejournal.com]

Sharon, do you want any listing of typos? I'm going through the Baen e-edition of Crystal Soldier, and more than a handful of my "weird word" hits are actually typos. Does anyone care? When I find them I'm noting a page number in my spreadsheet. Don't know if it has any value or not. Maybe I'll copy that specific list to a separate tab of the spreadsheet.

Re: Typo List?

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

In general, Management isn't interested in typos from published books.

Hmmm. I guess, if there are that many and you've already gone to the trouble of sorting them, separate them from the Genuine Weird Words and we'll see if anyone at Baen wants them.

I missed the boat!

[kat ayers mannix (from livejournal.com)]

I broke facebook on Opera on my laptop so haven't been checking FB that much- please give me something to do, I had signed up originally to wrangle!