Books Between

[rolanni]

This blog post is brought to you by the recent, and very gratifying, reception of the electronic Advance Reading Copy (eARC) of Dragon Ship, by frequent offenders Lee and Miller.

Dragon Ship is the Fourth Book of Theo Waitley, but it is not the last book of Theo Waitley. I believe that I may say without spoilage that it is an exciting read, and some of those who indulged in the eARC came out of the experience, um, eager to find out What Happens Next.

Now, it’s a sad fact that readers, even very slow readers, read faster than writers, even very fast writers, write. It’s also true that Traditional Publishing, even in these days of e-pubbing, takes some time.

How much time depends on a number of factors that are only vaguely relevant to the discussion of Books Between, so let’s just say, barring eArcs, and things like a manuscript falling behind an editor’s bookcase and remaining unmissed for a decade — between six and and 18 months.

All of us here are savvy and sophisticated Persons of the World, so I’m not going to be popping anybody’s balloon by stating right up front that professional writers write for money (cue Samuel Johnson).

Because we write for money, we don’t write a book, wait for it to be published, gauge the critical reaction, if any (cue laugh track), before deciding what our next project will be. If we did that, we’d starve. (I speak here of those of us who are attempting to approximate a middle class living while standing freelance, not of the superstars of the field.)

So, what writers try to do, is that we pitch several books at once when it comes down to submitting proposals. Of course, nothing says the publisher will accept any particular proposal, all or any of the books proposed.

Sometimes, though, the publisher takes the whole deal, as offered.

This happened to us, in 2010. We proposed three books to Baen — all of them Liaden Universe® novels; one that was wanted (and requested) by the publisher (the sequel to Ghost Ship), one that had been requested many times by fans (the sequel to Balance of Trade),  and a story that one of the team (that would be me) particularly wanted to write — and Baen said yes to all three.

Yes, there was dancing in the streets — it’s a good thing to sell three books on proposal (“on proposal” means that the books have to be written — I know you all know that; just making sure we’re all on the same page), and to get half of the advance money for all three upfront.  I am not complaining that we sold three books on proposal (in fact, I’m not complaining at all, really — just explaining why it is that Between Books are necessary, and perhaps inevitable).

However, as we’ve discussed here previously, one of the realities of books purchased on proposal (as opposed to books written “on spec”) is that contracted books acquire constraints.  Delivery deadlines, that’s one.  Word count limits, upper and/or lower — that’s another one.

The order in which the books will be delivered — that’s another one.

For this contract, the publisher wanted Dragon Ship delivered first, thus preserving the momentum of Ghost Ship.  This is perfectly reasonable.  We made sure that it was known that Dragon Ship wasn’t the last Theo Waitley book, and asked to deliver the Weird Book — working title George, now titled Necessity’s Child, delivered at the end of March and scheduled for publication in May 2013 — we asked if we might deliver that book first, which would, yes, have put a book between Ghost Ship and Dragon Ship, but would only put one book between Dragon Ship and  its sequel — Books Between; that’s what we’re talking about, after all.

The final decision was that Dragon Ship would be delivered first, Necessity’s Child second, Trade Secret last.  Again — this is perfectly reasonable, in fact, more than reasonable.  I was extremely happy that Baen took a chance on a “side” novel, because, let’s face it, I would’ve written it anyway (cue Samuel Johnson, rolling in his grave).

To recap:  We had three novels under contract, with a contracted delivery schedule of:  Dragon Ship, Necessity’s Child, Trade Secret.  We have, as of this writing, delivered two of those three books — Trade Secret being due in July.

Now, you’ll notice that the discussion between the publisher and ourselves didn’t revolve around us immediately writing the Fifth Book of Theo Waitley  after submitting Dragon Ship.  It was purely in the realm of how the between-books ought to be distributed.  In other words, there was a tacit agreement that there would be books between.

But why?  ask the folks who want the Rest of the Story right now.  How could you possibly leave us in such an exciting place and go off and write something else?

Well, the answer to that is. . .multifaceted, but simple.

First — contract, remember?  Three books, in an order determined by the publisher (see above to refresh yourself on the books and the submission order).

Second — While writing an exciting novel is, sometimes, exciting (though possibly less exciting for the authors than for the book’s eventual readers), what it mostly is?  Is tiring.  You — or, say, we — have to rest up a little after such an outpouring of effort — but — see above — writers don’t make money unless they write.

The answer to the conundrum, the balance between have to write and have to rest is?  Anybody?  You there in the back — Yes, thank you.

A busman’s holiday.

You write, because you want to eat, but also because you want to write.  Trust me, you’re not a writer unless, at some level which is, yes, sometimes rather deeply buried, you want to write.   You can, however, write something a little less…fraught, something a little off the wall (in my case, with George) or something that you’ve been meaning to write for some few years now (in Steve’s case, with Trade Secret).  This gives the story brain some time to. . .play. . .to revivify, to generate new ideas, and to rev on up to speed for the next exciting! installment! of the so-called “mainline” series.

Now, yes, there are writers who write their series, Book One! Two! Three! Four! Five! Six!  They’re awesome, and I’m in awe.  But the truth is that Steve and I have never yet done that — I mean, look — we wrote the second book first at the very start, and we’ve continued in that vein ever since.

What that means for our readers is that — you guys don’t always know what you’ll be getting next, and you won’t always get the direct sequel directly — though chances are good (see Mouse and Dragon, see Trade Secret) that you’ll get it eventually — and you’ll be getting our best work, written not only because writers write for money, but because we’re writing what we  want to write, pretty much when we want to write it.

That’s pretty awesome, too, in this day and age.

Originally published at Sharon Lee, Writer. You can comment here or there.

Comments

[attilathepbnun.livejournal.com]

We think it is, too!
Personally, as long as I know there's more Lee-and-Miller forthcoming, I can wait ...*picks up tea*

[james b franks (from livejournal.com)]

I liked "Dragon Ship" better than "Ghost Ship" it felt a lot less jumpy.

Out of curiosity where do the Carousel Tides books fit into your writing schedule?

[liadan-m.livejournal.com]

Advertant readers have also noticed other books on The Authors' schedule, as well as projects not named. Understanding this, and that which is explained above, is there any sign of when the sequel to Dragon Ship might fall into that which is currently outlined?

Also, I found that the disadvantage of reading the eARC was that the end of the book just happened. Without the physicality telling me the pages dwindled, and given the point of tension on which things ended, I first thought it a malfunction that the "next" button wasn't working. Not fair. ;)

[anisosynchronic.livejournal.com]

I kept track of the chapters, so I knew the end was approaching...

[rolanni.livejournal.com]

Understanding this, and that which is explained above, is there any sign of when the sequel to Dragon Ship might fall into that which is currently outlined?

Books currently under contract:
Trade Secret, a Liaden novel, due in July 2012
Carousel Sun, sequel to Carousel Tides, due early 2013
Carousel Seas, sequel to Carousel Sun, due mid 2013

You'll notice that none of those books is scheduled (for publication). They are under contract, and have delivery dates. Any book that we subsequently contract to write will have a delivery date after mid-2013.

So, my best guess for the publication of the sequel to Dragon Ship, bearing in mind that I am not a publisher, nor do I play a publisher on TV, is late 2014/early 2015.

[micheledear.livejournal.com]

As for me, well.

Yes, I would *like* to have every book you two will ever write RIGHT NOW. BUT! I am prepared to wait - I believe the best way to get the eggs out of the Golden Geese is to wait for them to be laid, in the fullness of time.

And so.

Will I be impatient? Most certainly.

Will I be demanding? Most certainly NOT.

Will I be re-reading a bunch of awesome stories - again? Oh hell yeah.

Will I be doing the happy dance whenever new books are out? Betcherass!

Thank you for doing all you guys do - and for kindly keeping us updated as well.

Signed,
Grateful (also VERY eager, you understand) Reader

[chaddaï fouché (from livejournal.com)]

Well, that neatly summarized my attitude as well so I won't repeat it :)
After all, those little nuggets of Necessity's Child were pretty tantalizing on their own.

[drammar.livejournal.com]

Ditto. Exactly this.

The neverending stories

[rfalken.livejournal.com]

Knowing that, I at the end of my first reading of Plan B many moons ago sent Steve an email that consisted mostly of "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH" simply because it had ended before I was ready...

Thank you for posting this. It states my feelings wonderfully well.

[celticdragonfly.livejournal.com]

Um, this, yes.

I have learned - do not rush the writer(s). Also, trust the writer(s). No matter how twitchy I may be for the next part of the story, patience is better than rushing it and having it not come out well.

books between

[barbinbandon.livejournal.com]

Makes sense. I've been musing on Barnburner and Gunshy. I never did read those because, c'mon, Maine mystery? How good could they be?

So, when the good authors posted that these were now available in eformat and I had run low on reading, I took a chance on one. After devouring both I had a little change of heart.

So, it appears that there are a few authors...I'll read whatever they write. No questions asked.

Yeah.

[sibylle]

In that case, I shall wait patiently for Shan&Priscilla #2. :-)

Books Between and Otherwise

[catherine ives (from livejournal.com)]

Recently I finished the latest installment of C.J. Cherryh's latest Foreigner book called Intruder. Of course I was up all successive nights reading Intruder til I had finished it. Since then, and having convinced my book club to read Georgette Heyer I've been reading her books and am now addicted to them. The Authors have been posting them up on their read to date this year lists and whenever they read a Heyer I buy it. I've now got them all stacked up either in the to read pile or the read pile which will be off to our local library soon. I am very exhausted. Ms. Heyer wrote some 50 novels in her lifetime. I've never been in this position before of having endless very fine novels to read and not being able to stop. I tried to start reading something else this evening but made the mistake of reading the very first page of Friday's Child and that was it...not going to be able to put it down.

So...I'm in the very strange position of being glad that we get a breather as we wait for Lee and Miller's very fine next book Dragon Ship. If all authors were like Lee and Miller, etc. I would never get any sleep and might even get sick and die. Unfortunately one of the commenters mentioned the Maine mysteries which are still in the unread pile so must read them soon.

I wish the authors all the luck in their writing. Hope everything goes smoothly and I know I will very much enjoy all these novels once they come out...I hope with some kind of suitable gap between.

Another very nice poster on Facebook. A cat is standing up on his/her back legs looking out the window to greet the sun. "Hello Sun" says the cat, "here I am, your reason for rising!"

Barks to the Cats. Signed with a yawn......

[kk1raven.livejournal.com]

I'm happy to read your books in whatever order they are published. My reaction is pretty much always "I want more, now" at the end of a book and I've always survived until more came along so presumably I will this time too.

[ironore.livejournal.com]

Hey, as long as you guys keep writing them, I can patiently wait for them. I look forward to the follow-up to Balance of Trade. Space Trader books are fun.

[ebartley.livejournal.com]

Um, Sharon, speaking as one of your fans, you can't satisfy us -- so I don't think you should worry about it.

Offhand, I would be delighted to have opportunity to read more of many things, many of which entwine with each other:
- the continuation of Theo's story
- the continuation of Kamele's story
- the continuation of Daav and Aelliana's story
- some of the story of Sinit Caylon, fostered of yo'Lanna; some of the story of Sinit Cyalon, delm Mizil
- the continuation of Jethri's story
- Miandra's stay on Liad, and what happens afterwards -- she can't very well go home after being trained as a dramliza
- some of Arin's life
- some of the backstory of Uncle's crew in general
- any events on Surebleak after Pat Rin started taking over, especially through non-Korval eyes
- the backstory about how Shan became known as a Name, if Priscilla is as well, and if she's had a reapproachment with her homeworld
- how Lomar Fasholt broke with her Temple and what she's trying to do
- what the Juntavas are up to now that they've denounced the Department of the Interior?
- is the Council of Clans trying to do anything about the Department of the Interior? What? If nothing collectively, what are the clans who believe it trying to do?
- Pilot Denobli's history
- Miri's history with the Gyrfalks -- Klamath in particular, yes, but not just Klamath
- more tales of Edger and the Middle River crew
- just what sort a parent was Kareen to young Pat Rin that Daav fostered him to Luken against her will?
- more of Anne Davis and Er Thom yos'Galan
- fill in the gaps of the period in Mouse and Dragon where there's a period of several years during which I think they're part-time couriers and Val Con grows up.

If I reread some of the older books again I'm sure more would come to me. And if you wrote enough of all of those pieces to satisfy me (though I adore Aelliana so much I doubt I would ever be satisfied) I'd have a new list twice as long because I'd want both past and future of some of the new characters you introduce.

[jim hicinbothom (from livejournal.com)]

Fully agree!

Though my "want list" tends to put more emphasis on older post-transition "early history" following characters like Dulsey, the Uncle, Arin, Rool Tiazen and that red-headed "little sister" leading the pack of folk that dea'Gauss brought to see Cantra aboard "Quick Passage" late in boarding process.

[ebartley.livejournal.com]

Well, I haven't done more than quick-skim-for-facts of the crystal duology in a while. But a book about the landing on Liad, Cantra founding her clan, the refusal to declare the contract complete, the arguments over the piloting fee, and so on would ROCK.

I'd also love to read more about the dea'Gausses.

I did mention it was impossible to satisfy my urge for Liaden Universe fiction.

[ruralgeek.livejournal.com]

ahhh - great list... add a sequel to The Tomorrow Log. I loved that story. :)

[ebartley.livejournal.com]

I think that's a different world? I'd like to see more Archer's Beach, too. Want to read about how Gran found Nessa, how Mr. Ignacy found Gran, what happens next for all the characters, etc.

[katmoonshaker.livejournal.com]

::raises hand:: Hi. Kat here. The one who finished reading the eArc and then went busily on rereading (for them umpteenth time) the series. I'll just sit over here quietly rereading until the next book is out. Okay? Okay. You write. I'll read. Works for me.

[gingerwood.livejournal.com]

I waited 10 years for Plan B, as long as you don't plan to break that record, we're good :)

[andy finkel (from livejournal.com)]

Before I started reading the Dragon Ship eArc, I'd read some of the comments about the end of the book, and they got me a bit scared of what I'd find when I got there. I'm please to find that my apprehensions were unfounded. I enjoyed the book and its ending.

IMHO, Dragon Ship ended at a good place to pause between Theo books; decisions have been made, players are known, and, while everyone's fate may be still up in the air, there are clear paths for the characters involved. For me, its a satisfying place for the authors to leave the story while they recharge.

As an aside, I found myself wanting the Uncle to get more page-time in the book; even though this was a Theo-centric story (obviously), the more Uncle was on the stage, the more interesting he got. It will be interesting to see where you take the character next time.

Andy