Fun With Words
Saturday, September 23rd, 2006 09:52 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
rolanniAll righty, then.
The alert reader will remember Carousel Tides, which had a few weeks ago gone out to the bold and courageous folken who had agreed to be beta readers. The comments are now in, since every one of them reads much faster than I write, and are insightful and helpful. In the way of such things, everyone found something different to note or talk about*. My job now is synthesis, and then a little more wait before I actually, y'know, read the whole manuscript myself.
*With this exception: No fewer than three readers wished to know what "ravin" meant. Fair enough. I accept that I know a lot of weird words. Also? I have been known to make words up when none of those on hand were precisely what I wanted, so they're right to watch me. If "ravin" kicks even experienced readers out of the story, it needs to go, and another, less weird, word found to bear its weight.
Which brings us to today's exercise. Behold the sentence frag in which "ravin" appears:
The alert reader will remember Carousel Tides, which had a few weeks ago gone out to the bold and courageous folken who had agreed to be beta readers. The comments are now in, since every one of them reads much faster than I write, and are insightful and helpful. In the way of such things, everyone found something different to note or talk about*. My job now is synthesis, and then a little more wait before I actually, y'know, read the whole manuscript myself.
*With this exception: No fewer than three readers wished to know what "ravin" meant. Fair enough. I accept that I know a lot of weird words. Also? I have been known to make words up when none of those on hand were precisely what I wanted, so they're right to watch me. If "ravin" kicks even experienced readers out of the story, it needs to go, and another, less weird, word found to bear its weight.
Which brings us to today's exercise. Behold the sentence frag in which "ravin" appears:
...vandals and condominium developers poised to rape and ravin the land.
Now, I like this. "rape and ravin" have a nice rhythmic rrrr thing going on between them, I like the reflection back to the vandals, and I want to evoke precisely the sort of terrible things both "rape" and "ravin" have packed inside them. In short, I think the phrase says everything it should say, neatly, sweetly and in voice.
OTOH, we certainly don't want people getting knocked out of the story at this point, saying "WTF is 'ravin'?" (I think it's broadly understandable from context, but that's just me.)
The search is therefore on for a new phrase. I dismiss out of hand "rape and pillage". "Rape and wreck" preserves the rrrrr thing, but, I dunno, "wreck" just doesn't pack the same weapons as "ravin."
Suggestions? Comments?
Now, I like this. "rape and ravin" have a nice rhythmic rrrr thing going on between them, I like the reflection back to the vandals, and I want to evoke precisely the sort of terrible things both "rape" and "ravin" have packed inside them. In short, I think the phrase says everything it should say, neatly, sweetly and in voice.
OTOH, we certainly don't want people getting knocked out of the story at this point, saying "WTF is 'ravin'?" (I think it's broadly understandable from context, but that's just me.)
The search is therefore on for a new phrase. I dismiss out of hand "rape and pillage". "Rape and wreck" preserves the rrrrr thing, but, I dunno, "wreck" just doesn't pack the same weapons as "ravin."
Suggestions? Comments?
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Date: 2006-09-23 04:47 pm (UTC)OTOH, Personally, I avoid the use of 'rape' except to express that very specific act of violation. I might have chosen 'ravage and ruin' instead.
OT3rd Hand, Those who would not understand the usage of any of those phrases, and would choose not to look it up, might oughta read something else. ;-)
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Date: 2006-09-23 06:07 pm (UTC)According to our friend the OED ravin is an alternate spelling for raven in both meanings. And the last usage they're citing is 1862. In some ways, it's too antiqidated for your audience (even though Queen Bess and Geoff Chaucer use it, and their use makes anything acceptable).
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Date: 2006-09-23 06:12 pm (UTC)Actually, I am.
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Date: 2006-09-23 06:21 pm (UTC)