Question Round-Up
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rolanniQuestions have piled up underneath various blog entries at Eagles Over the Kennebec. So! Massive question-answering. If I've missed yours, ask again and I'll do my humble best.
1. Why am I going to Archers Beach?
Because I have two books set in Archers Beach due pretty soon now, and, as matters now stand, and with Mr. Bouchard's kind assistance, it was cheaper, in time and money, to stay in town during September, rather than make multiple day-trips down-coast. The decision to do this was made when I thought this year would look very different than it's turning out, but made they are, and off I am.
2. What will Madam Agent want you all to write next?
That's kind of got the cart before the horse. Given that the proposal we submitted are all for books in-series, Madame's job at this point is to either (1) request from Steve and I more fullness of detail in order to clarify our intent, or (2) to send the proposals on to Madame the Editor. We haven't gotten a request for a rewrite, nor heard that the proposals have been passed on; Madame the Agent is on vacation, so we hope to hear in re (1) or (2) in September.
3. Any plans for more Tree-and-Dragon symbol tees?
There's a kind of t-shirt shop under construction here. Also coffee mugs and tote bags. I'm not sure what's going on with all the shirts with teensy-tiny logos on them. Cafepress being...somewhat opaque to me.
4. I take it there is a naming convention that assigns males a two "word" name, like Val Con and Er Thom, but "Daav" seems to be exceptional in that respect as well.
Many male Liadens are saddled with the two-section personal name. The traditional naming practice is two syllables of three letters each -- the balanced syllables are both artistically and philosophically pleasing; the total of six letters is also pleasing, six being a felicitous number for Liadens, along with twelve. So you get Jen Sar, Ren Zel, Sae Zar, Win Ton...
However, some names are very old in the Clan -- such as Clonak, Er Thom (which follows the six-letter, two-syllable rule, but the syllables lack symmetry), Daav -- some are names that have been imported into the Clan for one reason or another, like Ichliad Brunner. Liaden society is pretty rigid, but it is still a starfaring society, and nasty, foreign, untraditional things will, sadly, creep in among the less principled Clans...
OK, who'd I miss?
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Date: 2012-08-24 04:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-24 05:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-24 09:05 pm (UTC)What would be cool would be a data base (fans, are you listening?) with stuff like a list of character names, who they are and what book they're in, a list of place names, a glossary of Liaden words, geneologies, etc. But, it would take somebody more disciplined than I to interrupt their reading to write down a name, identify it and the book name, etc. I might be willing to be a collection point, though, and collate, format, alphabetize, etc., but somebody else would have to make the website and put them up. Maybe put them on the Welcome to Liad website?
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Date: 2012-08-24 09:51 pm (UTC)Actually, Shan's mother named him after a Liaden. . .folk hero -- Shan el'Thrassin. She didn't realize that it (1) wasn't a Korval name or (2) the done thing.
But!
What I really wanted to talk to you about were these foolish things you said:
What would be cool would be a data base (fans, are you listening?) with stuff like a list of character names, who they are and what book they're in, a list of place names, a glossary of Liaden words, geneologies, etc.
...and...
I might be willing to be a collection point, though, and collate, format, alphabetize, etc.
Just before you got here, I think, a deal went down with Audible.com to record all fifteen Liaden books in One Swell Foop, all to be released on September 4, concurrent with the hardcover release of Dragon Ship.
Because there are so many strange words and names and whatnot in our books, we asked volunteers to pick a book and compile Lists, which we then forwarded to the narrators. (Later, I went down each and every list with each and every narrator, over the phone, pronouncing each and every word).
But! I still have those lists. And! Mike Barker, who comes around pretty often -- Mike? -- had Some While Back made a start on a Liaden Universe(R) companion.
It might be that the two of you could collaborate.
We'd be glad to host the information on the Korval site, but we don't have time to do the compilations, link-ups and whatever else is needed, ourselves.
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Date: 2012-08-25 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-25 05:54 pm (UTC)It might have something to do with Aelliana's clan being one of the smaller and less important ones, not one of the big families that can trace their histories back to Solcintra. (Though, having said that, I suppose all Liaden families must have histories that go back to Solcintra one way or another.)
It says in one of the Crystal books (probably the second one) that in the society that Solcintra was part of, the introductory syllables indicate something about what business the family is in - yos' is explicitly stated to attach to families of Pilots, if memory serves. I don't believe dea' is similarly explained, though looking at the examples of dea'Gauss and dea'Judan suggests a general idea.
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Date: 2012-08-25 10:21 pm (UTC)Because not every name has a prefix.
*cough* Tiazan *cough* Maarilex *cough*
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Date: 2012-08-24 11:33 pm (UTC)I did have one other question. How do they determine what surname the child of a contract marriage gets? Do they take the surname of the parent whose Clan is going to get the child?
I'd offer my Jaks as a temp supervisor (he's had extensive supervisory experience), but there would be a bit of a problem with travel to the jobsite. . . .Texas to Maine. . . .
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Date: 2012-08-25 12:08 pm (UTC)That would make sense, right? This is all spelled out in the contract, well ahead of time. The participants of the marriage know going in which Clan will nurture the child. Anything else would be cruel.
So, since Tiazan, say, does not look to Korval, the child of a contract-marriage between a Tiazan and a yos'Phelium, in which the child is to came to Korval, would be named thusly: New Child yos'Phelium Clan Korval.
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Date: 2012-08-25 05:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-25 07:14 pm (UTC)You know, after all, what Lines look to Korval.
And, for bonus points, you know what happened when two individuals of Lines that did look to Korval went in defiance of the Delm's Word, and thereby produced twins.
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Date: 2012-08-26 05:28 am (UTC)If you say so, then surely it is true, but if I had been aware of knowing any such thing I would not have needed to ask the question.
Since you assure me that the information is available, I will keep an eye out for it next time I re-read.
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Date: 2012-08-26 06:02 am (UTC)I do remember the story of the twins, and from there have found the way to recalling what "look to Korval" means. And it's true that I do know what Lines look to Korval, though I had forgotten that that was what it was called.
Thank you for the answer to my question.
Shan
Date: 2012-08-25 03:07 am (UTC)Re: Shan
Date: 2012-08-25 12:04 pm (UTC)Re: Shan
Date: 2012-08-26 07:58 pm (UTC)Right there at the beginning of Chapter 3, the quote from "The Trickster Across the Galaxy: A Retropsect"!
As often as I've read "Local Custom" I never - ever - made the connection. I've read "Local Custom" so often I don't even bother keeping count. Wow, as the saying goes "Learn somethin' new every day!" I, like a lot of readers, figured Anne Davis chose the name from her Celtic heritage.
Thank you for the lesson.