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A couple of interesting articles were pointed out in Another Part of the Internet.  I'm posting them here to boost the signals, and because they are an interesting addition to the ongoing shouting match discussion about how women don't write SF/F, except when they're putting guy writers out of a job by doing it wrong.

Strange Horizons' 2012 SF Count

Lady Business 2012 Coverage of Women in SF/F Blogs

The break-out points from the NPR study of women in cinema, at I'm Working On It, including some interesting information from studies done at the Geena Davis Institute regarding how men perceive the number of women within a group.

The transcript of the NPR study of women in cinema

Anybody got any more?  Real Numbers relating to real publishing are what we're looking for, not Opinions.  The reason the shouting match discussion exists is that there are 'way too many Opinions, and 'way too few Real Numbers.

Adding:

Empirical evidence that women have been writing SF/F for A Long Time.

Date: 2014-01-18 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amm-me.livejournal.com
These aren't percentages, but more than an opinion
http://thebooksmugglers.com/2014/01/sff-in-conversation-women-write-sff-andrea-k-hosts-keeper-bookshelf.html

Date: 2014-01-18 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amm-me.livejournal.com
Left you a link, but LJ thinks it's spam.

Date: 2014-01-18 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Got it, and added it to the top. Thank you!

Date: 2014-01-18 10:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-19 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-bernobich.livejournal.com
What shouting match? There are several good discussions around about. Some of them are passionate, but to call them shouting matches is counter-productive, imo.

Date: 2014-01-19 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rolanni.livejournal.com
Is shouting match crossed out? I call this humor. And I'm not actually interested in whether or not its "counterproductive," to characterize the current discussion as a (crossed-out) shouting match.

I've lived through at least three iterations of "women don't write SF/F" or "women don't write REAL SF/F" or "women are spoiling SF/F" or "where the hell did all these women come from?" (more humor) during my career, which started in the 1970s, and I've been a woman the entire time.

You might say that I'm kinda TIRED of this conversation. Certainly, I'm tired of the folks who don't seem to able to learn, or to read authors' names, plainly printed on the covers of books.

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