rolanni: (what it's like)

Elsewhere On the Intertubes, there’s a discussion about Urban Fantasy, and people are providing their favorite titles in-genre, which is very cool and useful, in an oh! I’ve-gotta-get-that-book kinda way.

One thing, though, is that, looking at the lists, and the titles I do know/have read, I’m finding myself parsing certain books not as “urban fantasy” but as “werewolf novel” or “vampire novel.” This is, I should state, based on the scientific process known as “gut feeling.”

I mean, the Sookie Stackhouse books are fun, but to me, they’re vampire novels, not urban fantasy. The Weather Warden books are super, but, nope, not urban fantasy. Wizard of Pigeons? Dead-on urban fantasy.

So, you’re wondering — as I am — what’s the difference? And, thinking about this. . .I think that, for a book to be urban fantasy, to me, the city/town/specific piece of land has to be a character. It’s not enough that the action is set in a certain place, the story has to be about that place to some degree; it has to be important to the story that these events are happening here, rather than over there, in Gotham.

So, yeah, the Sookie books take place now — making them Contemporary Fantasy/Vampire — but the towns and cities in which the various stories happen are. . .just settings. The life of A Specific Town isn’t threatened, or bound up tightly with the magic of the story.

In Wizard of Pigeons, the city depends for its existence on its magic-workers doing their magic correctly and consistently; in The War for the Oaks a piece of the city’s geography is under dispute by two factions of the fey. In Carousel Tides, the fate of an entire seacoast town depends upon the heroine dealing with the forces of magic appropriately.

The attraction for me, in what I call urban fantasy, is the juxtaposition of the weird with the everyday, and the degree to which each reflects and influences the other. A story about vampire or werewolf politics can be — has been — interesting to me, but — if the story can be moved to any city and told just as effectively, then the story isn’t urban fantasy.

Discuss.

Originally published at Sharon Lee, Writer. You can comment here or there.

rolanni: (agatha primping)
Over on Dear Author a couple weeks ago, Heather Massey took up the subject of the Extraordinary Heroine, and asks the musical question Is The World Ready? She notes, among other things, that some Urban Fantasy and Romance heroines are introduced as "strong" -- which is to say, The Author Says So -- but then goes on to act in ways that are. . .somewhat less than strong. It's an interesting read, and you should read it; the comment thread meanders somewhat, but, eh -- that's what comment threads do.

Now, I've been thinking about Heather's article, and about some of the comments, and I wonder if it is true that readers would prefer their heroine to be "nice" rather than competent. I'm not a subscriber to the whole Girl Nice Game*, and on the whole I find I prefer people, whether they live in so-called Real Life, or inside a book, to be interesting. If a character is hard-nosed, well, then -- there you have it. She'll act in a hard-nosed fashion, which may not be, particularly, nice or pleasant, but ought, at least if the author is doing her job, interesting and provocative to the reader.

Full disclosure, one of the commentors in the thread brought up the. . .fascinating reader review of Carousel Tides in which Kate is described as "repulsive." Obviously, if I had thought Kate was repulsive, I couldn't have managed having her in my head for a little over a year, but I will agree that she's not nice.

So, discussion question! How do you prefer your heroines? Strong or nice? Is strong vs. nice a false dichotomy? Can a nice girl be strong? Can a strong girl be nice? For more than one date?
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*Girl Nice Game is the game played by militantly sweet females; it has at its core a balance sheet toothier than any Liadens: I'm nice to you, so you HAVE to be nice to me. See "When You're Good to Mama" for clarification of this concept and its workings.

Honor's Paradox

Tuesday, February 8th, 2011 08:23 am
rolanni: (agatha&clank)
If you honorably serve a dishonored master, is your personal honor unsullied?

Discuss, with examples.


ETA: Lotsa people ducking the question here. Interesting.
rolanni: (booksflying1.1)
Wow, a lot of opinions on yesterday's discussion question!

Speaking as someone who writes books that have been dinged as "too easy," "too hard," "cheesy," "guilty pleasures," "badly written," and "literary masterpieces" (often the same books), the only thing I can add is that every reader brings a different expectation to the table, and that no two reading experiences can be the same, because we all live alone inside our heads.

The qualification and certification processes are fascinating to observe, though.

FWIW, I was raised up by a band of feral newspaper reporters and advertising copywriters. Keeping it simple is one of the basic tenets of both forms. Good reporters must especially excel at being able to communicate sometimes very emotional, and very complex information clearly. So "easy read" in which "easy" stands in for "clear" and "accessible" is sorta the Grail.


Yesterday became All About Doctors. Not only did Steve have an appointment, but I got a lightning appointment with my doctor, too. Nope, not jealous, but. . .Steve reports that I sometimes stop breathing when I'm asleep, and then start up again, noisily. And I have for a couple years now woken up from time to time with a "recurring dream" that I'm not breathing, and start gasping for air. Which, yanno, I figured was Just Stress.

Turns out that it might be sleep apnea, and the gasping thing is my brain yelling, "Hey dummy; you're not breathing! Wake up!"

So -- a sleep test in my near future. I'm not worried about getting any of the answers wrong, because I intend to brush up with Mozart, who has a double-doctorate in the Art and also the Science of Sleep.

However! I think that some of you on the FL have had this test? What can I expect?

For today -- a couple hours at the day-job, then a drive to Bangor in the maybe-snow, for -- wait for it -- a doctor's appointment.
rolanni: (Default)
A book that is an "easy read" is a lower form of literature.

Discuss.

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