rolanni: (Mouse and Dragon)

So, I have a cold.  I'm not happy about this.  I also have work to do, so best to get at it.

But!  Before I quite get there, I'd like to share some articles about "strong female protagonists," and the notion of "likable (female) characters."

A Plague of Strong Female Characters

Not Here to Make Friends

These articles are interesting to me, as a writer -- and as a writer of characters often described as "likable."  Which is somewhat baffling, considering the histories of many of our characters, at least on the Liaden side of things.  Among my/our other characters. . .Well. . .

Poor Becca Beauvelley gets all kinds of abuse for allowing herself to fall into the hands of an ancient and powerful magic-wielding villain from whom she has no hope of freeing herself.  She should, one gathers, have Done Something.

Jenn Pierce, a middle-class woman of the last century, who doesn't know judo, or sword-fighting, or anything at all about guns -- as most of us, I will argue, do not -- has her lack of martial skill scorned, and is advised to get some basic training in weapons.  Her lack of skill in these matters is called "unbelievable."

Kate Archer is described by one reader as "repulsive" and by another as "uncaring."

And Val Con yos'Phelium, who really will kill you, if necessary. . .is seen as kind of a nice guy, a little shy. . .While the Uncle, whose probable sins I suggest that we dwell not long upon, is "fascinating."

Anyhow, these are things that concern me nearly, as matters of craft and art, and it's interesting to see how other people have thought about them.

Speaking of likable characters and reality. . .There's an article in this week's New Yorker about the defense lawyer who specializes in defending our most notorious criminals, most lately, she has been the lead defense attorney for Dzbokhar Tsarnaev.  Her idea, as far as I understand it, which may not be very far at all, is that -- while Society has an obligation to rid itself of Monsters; it has the corresponding duty not to dispose of those who are. . .less than. . .Monsters merely because it would be convenient to do so.  To this end, she undertakes to show juries the humanity of her clients.  Here's the link to that article.

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Week Five of the Do It Like a Delm Challenge is well underway.  You view this week's challengers here.

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In other news, I received a package today from Amazon, and Sprite has found a use for the box.




Let no box be discarded. Sprite asserting her royal dominion. Photo by Sharon LeeLet no box be discarded. Sprite asserting her royal dominion. Photo by Sharon Lee


Today's blog title is brought to you by Juice Newton, "Queen of Hearts."  Here's your link.

rolanni: (the kids)

So, yesterday was various errands, including the Getting of the Flu Shots, and tomorrow there are more errands.  Today, I believe there is cleaning, including post-writing disaster control of my office.  Which, to be fair, is Slightly Less Awful than it Often Is in terms of Sheer Volume.  On the other paw, I can't just sweep stacks of paper into trash bags, either, because there are Large Swaths of at least one other book interleaved with the pages that finally came to make up Dragon in Exile.

Speaking of Dragon in Exile, or at least, speaking of Val Con and Miri, who are more-or-less major actors in the novel, something went past my eyeballs a while ago, regarding characterization in the Liaden Universe®. The assertion of the writer was that while the authors get positive points for writing strong female characters, those points are crushed under the number of  negative points the authors get for pairing said strong, intelligent females with a male characters who are even stronger and smarter.

It probably goes without saying -- but I'll say it anyway -- that I don't see it that way.  Speaking specifically of Miri  and Val Con, what I see is two smart, capable people who have had vastly different lives, and who therefore have different strengths, and weaknesses, who happen to complement each other.

As a question of craft, I've always felt that it's a cheat to demonstrate that one's female character is strong and intelligent by deliberately pairing her with a weak or venal, less-intelligent male.  Just as it's a cheat to demonstrate that your hero is strong, smart, and morally upstanding by pairing him with Pretty Maggie Moneyeyes.

Also, just personally, I wonder why a strong, smart character of any gender you like would partner with a dummy (OK; maybe in terms of muscle or money).  But, generally, in terms of survival, wouldn't you want the smartest, strongest, most sympatico person you could get for your partner?

So, anyhow, that's what I think.  What do you think?

rolanni: (crescent)

So yesterday, I finished "The Gift of Music," for Andy LaPierre, who y'all will have the pleasure of meeting next year some time.  I seriously have no idea what to do with the story, and said so to Steve, after he read it last night.

"Why not try to sell it?"  he asked.

Which is -- wow.  What an idea.  I don't remember the last time I submitted a story, cold.  Somewhere in the last decade or more it became clear that I wasn't writing commercially viable short fiction and I just stopped submitting stories.  I didn't stop writing stories, because...well.  But I did stop submitting.

We did the chapbooks, and of course there's Splinter Universe (which I fear may not be a viable "market" for this story until sometime next year).

Anyhow, I'll think about that. . .a little later.  Today, I have a pile of chores before me, having chosen to devote yesterday to getting Andy out of my head.  I also have a full-blown summer cold, and all I really want to do is lie on the couch and watch endless episodes of "Maverick."

Or maybe not.

Before I vanish into the Land of Chores, though...I don't know how many of you follow Ursula Vernon's blog, where, a couple days ago, she was ruminating on the lack of less-than-bright protagonists in fiction.  Here's the post. Which I read with interest.  Ursula identifies three "stupid" leads in her post -- Buttercup from The Princess Bride, Bertie Wooster from the Jeeves and Wooster novels, and Freddy, from Cotillion -- and wonders why there are no others.

Now, after 'way too much thought, it occurred to me that all three of the characters Ursula identifies are comic characters -- The Princess Bride is, after all, a farce; the Jeeves books never pretend to be anything but broad comedy; and Cotillion is definitely one of Heyer's lighter works (though I must go on record as being at Freddy's feet).

So, here are my questions:  (1) Can you (yes, you) think of any non-comic novels in which the main character is not extremely bright, or gifted in some manner that makes intelligence into a non-issue?  (2) Do you feel a lack of, in Ursula's phrase, "good stupid characters" in fiction?

Have at it.

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rolanni: (Saving world)

This post potentially contains spoilers for Liaden Universe® novels: Mouse and Dragon, Fledgling, Saltation, Ghost Ship. . .I think that's it, but there may be more.  Probably best not to read the following unless you've read most-if-not-all of the Liaden novels.

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Possibly the most maligned figure in the Liaden Universe® is Daav yos'Phelium, deadbeat dad, slacker, and false kinsman, whose existence is entirely and only in service of his own pleasure.

For those with foggy memories: Before Val Con takes up the Ring, his father, Daav, is delm of Korval; a position he finds burdensome (see "Who wants it least will do it best").  It can be argued that he's not a very good delm of Korval, but he's certainly far from the worst.

He becomes a far better delm once he has lifemated with Aelliana Caylon, and has access to her support, advice, and unique view of Balance and society.  With her connivance, he is able to fulfill some of his personal goals, and avoid being consumed by the delm's melant'i.

During his brief marriage, in fact, he becomes very much reconciled to the necessity of standing Korval.  By the time we're nearing the end of Mouse and Dragon, he's actually quite content with his life, clan-bound though it is.

Tragedy then strikes:  His lifemate is gruesomely killed before his eyes, having made and acted upon the split-second decision to literally take the bullet that was meant for him.

In other parts of the universe, it has been made clear that there is a set, or possibly more than one set, of Very Bad People out there and they are specifically gunning for, as it appears, Daav.  The possibility exists that this/these set/sets of VBP are gunning for Korval as a group -- in fact, it is later revealed that they are -- but at the point when Aelliana is murdered, this question is up in the air.

A third attempt on Daav's life (this after Aelliana's death) seems to pretty positively pinpoint a Terran group as the single set of VBP, and that they are after Daav.

Daav, with input from Er Thom and Anne -- for he did not decide on this plan on the spur of the moment, or all by himself -- and with the necessity of Balancing Aelliana's death in the manner Aelliana would wish it Balanced, decides that he can perhaps reduce the danger to others of the clan by removing himself from the field.  In order to make his exile from clan and kin productive, he will pursue Aelliana's Balance, which is, yes, a very long-sighted, subtle and essentially non-heroic Balance.

I point out at this juncture that, to a Liaden, to be clanless is to be dead.  Daav, having been a Scout, has some counter-conditioning to this cultural imperative, but even as a Scout, he had been the head of a team, the members of which he treats with as extended family.  Further, except that people are shooting at him and by that tendency endangering the people he loves and is responsible for, he is not burdened by his family; his family is what kept him from committing suicide in the immediate aftermath of Aelliana's death.

Everybody with me so far?

OK.  I'll try to wrap the rest of this up quickly.  Oh, and in case I didn't say, there is textual evidence for all these wild claims being made by the author; though you (Universal You) may have to read closely and think a little.

So! Decision taken, Daav leaves the clan, fakes his suicide and emerges as his alter-ego, in pursuit of Aelliana's Balance.  It is his intention to dedicate himself to this Balance, making the Balance his life.  Becoming, in essence, a Balance-monk, where nothing that does not directly serve the Balance is permitted to distract him.

Aelliana, as we know, scotches that business.  She knows that Daav needs "clan" and she provides "clan" so that he can function, and live as full a life as possible, given the very great losses in his immediate past.

Which is how Jen Sar Kiladi comes to take a mistress (or, to be taken by a mistress) with whom he eventually has a child, and has a comfortable, even pleasant life while pursuing Aelliana's Balance as she wished it to be pursued.

Now we come 'round to it; the heroism thing, that some folks want to talk about.

We are not here talking about the folks who think that Daav "abdicated" his authority so he could have a "pleasant life."

Nor the folks who think that Daav "abandoned" his son into the care of unfeeling, abusive strangers.

But the folks who think that Daav's self-exile from clan and kin in pursuit of Balance is not heroism.  Who think that it's A WASTE.

Which is to say -- his choices are unheroic and self-serving; built purely on selfish foundations.

Apparently, the only way one may be a hero is to go out, lasers blasting, and kill the bastids.  Or figure out a way to take all their money.  Expose them to public ridicule.  To Make Them Pay Right Now.

Making them pay (much) later is not heroic; it's. . .lazy at best and reprehensible at worst.  A hero's only coin is immediate gratification.

Clearly, I reject that.  I see Daav as a hero -- and a particularly tragic hero at that.  He leaves everything he wanted and cared about.  That he comes to have a liveable life does not negate his losses or his sacrifices.  He does not have "everything" he wants (see, "I want my father back, you son of a bitch," for more on this concept); he would have been far, far happier had his lifemate never been murdered.  He would have been far happier if murderous people didn't make a decision to leave his support structure and his son seem not only rational, but the only good decision available to him.

The fact that he has a life after surviving tragedy does not make him despicable; it makes him human. The fact that his Balance is a long one does not make him a self-serving wimp.

Heroism comes in many shapes and sizes.

I rest my case.

Comments?

Counter-opinions?  Note that I'm looking for closely reasoned counter-opinions, not knee-jerk reactions, based on current US "mainstream" cultural mores.

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rolanni: (Mouse and Dragon)

Spent the morning thus far snuggling with Steve and updating various pages on this website (not at the same time).  You should see new content on the Welcome page, the Upcoming in 2013 page and the Publications page.

Which brings me around, not too subtly, to a conversation I had recently with an earnest young thing who wished to express to me a number of  the things that the Liaden Universe® has gotten wrong over the years.  (No, no, I don't know why (some) people feel compelled to do this.  Perhaps so I can do better in future?  Certainly, I can't do better retroactively; the books that were written in the late 1980's remain having been written in the late 1980's.)

In any case, this earnest young person chiefly wished to express that it was Very Wrong of the Liaden Universe® to constantly perpetuate the outdated and harmful notion that women must leave their lives in order to follow their male partners*.

Now, this is an interesting observation, but I'm not sure how or why it's a constant Wrong in terms of the structure of the Liaden Universe®.  I understand that my auditor believes that the continuing cultural insistence in the US that women put aside their lives, interests and careers in order to serve man and raise children is potentially harmful, to the woman and to society at large.  I even agree with her.  But, in terms of the Liadenverse, this is what I see:

Past this line there are potential spoilers for Liaden Universe® novels.  If you haven't read the novels, you might consider stopping here.






Miri Robertson left her life as a hunted woman in order to follow Val Con yos'Phelium and become even more hunted.  When we meet her, Miri's one biggest concern is staying alive.  She's cashed out of the mercs; her legit job went badly sour and she doesn't really seem to have any plans or aspirations aside from living to eat breakfast tomorrow morning.

Priscilla Mendoza had been cast out from her religion, her family, and her ship by the time she met Shan yos'Galan.  Her decision to relocate on Liad has much to do with the feeling that one must live somewhere, and that she wanted to be near her new, and true, friends.  At the end of Conflict of Honors, it's not at all decided that they will prosper in a partnership, though later it appears, yes, as if things have worked out for them.

When first we meet Aelliana Caylon -- indeed, within the first two dozen pages of Scout's Progress -- she has independently made the determination that, if she wishes to survive to pursue her art, she must leave her clan.  The rest of Progress and all of Mouse and Dragon is  the story of how she does that, and the compromises she makes -- and forces Daav yos'Phelium to make -- in order to arrive at a life that is acceptable to her.

I will allow that Anne Davis could easily have returned to University and taken up her former life.  Without her child, certainly.  And I do blame Daav for manipulating her in order to keep his brother and his brother's heir on Liad.  But I do also recall that Er Thom had booked passage on a spaceliner for all three of them and had steeled himself to follow her.

I don't believe that Natesa the Assassin has left her employ as a Juntavas Judge, despite having cast her lot in with Pat Rin yos'Phelium.  Her initial decision to accompany him was, in my mind, professionally motivated.

Cantra yos'Phelium's life was falling apart when she met Jela, but far from following him, she spends the first book trying to ditch him; then realizes that maybe he has an idea or two, after all, and if she wants to survive, which she does. . .

Anthora yos'Galan, of course, simply acquires Ren Zel, poor man, for which we may -- and do -- blame the Tree.

Kamele Waitley does leave the Wall in order to live in her onagrata's establishment, something she apparently takes herself to task for during the course of their relationship, so it doesn't sit easy with her.  She then mounts a rescue mission, meaning to bring the father of her daughter out of what she thinks is a wrongful imprisonment so that he can continue his life.

Theo. . .to the best of my knowledge, Theo isn't following anybody anywhere. . .

So, what I'm saying is that, as one of the fond authors, I'm not seeing in the Liadenverse the mindless casting aside of a woman's whole life "for love."  I'm seeing women who have real problems, and their problems are in part mitigated by association with a man of Korval, whereupon they are empowered to be themselves more fully.

Perhaps that was the young person's problem?  That the women are in trouble and the men fix it?  I suppose we could have been even more forward-thinking, there in 1984, and made certain that the "current" mature members of Korval were more female than male, and then had the folks in trouble be male.

But, yanno?  We didn't.  And what is written is written; and everything that is based on what has been written must build on that past logically and consistently.  Also, we don't believe in ret-conning**.  That means -- we (us and you) are stuck with it.

So -- that's my rant on the topic.  Who has thoughts?

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*Before anyone's head explodes, this was actually a relief.  The last earnest reader who wanted to engage me in this vein wished to open my eyes to the way in which our stories put real women into real danger by perpetuating the dangerous, mind-controlling myth of True Love. I was, as I understood it, to consider myself a murderer.

**ret-con = retroactive continuity changes (as often seen in comics and occasionally in movies)

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